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Anonymous wrote:Holy sh!t, are you people on drugs? While I agree it was time for him to go, he was fighting with one hand behind his back his entire tenure. We have systematic problems with the sport in this country and Klinsmann was fighting to change this. Until we see that MLS is part of the problem and not the solution, we will be mired in mediocrity or worse for the next few generations.

Look at the team that was on the pitch for those two recent losses. That's the best this generation has to offer? Michael Bradley is a trainwreck. Jozy's first touch is embarrassingly bad. Pulisic is the future, but what does he have around him?

+100

My sons (8 and 11) asked me why Klinsmann was fired. I said US establishment didn't like him because he was always putting down the MLS and he wanted his national team members to play in Europe not MLS because the MLS is not high-level soccer.

My 11-year old responded "well, the MLS does suck". I said "exactly". This is a case of fighting and trying to do the right thing g even if it will cost you a job.

My kid sees the hypocrisy at the big clubs in our area too. So much politics and cow-towing and big kids with zero first touch, etc. The sport in this country is a losing battle.

Really? He was fired because he put down MLS? That is what you told your kid?

not pp - it's not the main reason for sure. but it definitely contributed. klinsmann pushed for all the talents to go to europe asap.

don garber and SUM did not like that.

Damn right I told my kids that because it was the TRUTH:

One of the questions raised about Arena's hiring was his commitment to bringing in players born or raised in other countries telling ESPN FC in 2013 that "players on the national team should be -- and this is my own feeling -- they should be Americans. If they're all born in other countries, I don't think we can say we are making progress." Eight of the 25 players Klinsmann had in camp for the Costa Rica game were born and raised in other countries.

i bet christian pulisic is thinking "damn, i could be lining up with modric, rakitic, brozovic, kovacic, pjaca, mandzukic instead of the shit i'm surrounded by"

then again, the croatian fa probably would be like "sorry you have to prounoucne your last name correct - it isn't "pewlesick"

I agree that MLS is subpar compared to the EPL, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A, etc. That much is blindingly obvious. But that's not the reason Klinsmann was fired. He was a complete failure at tactics and strategy, and if you are a national team coach, you cannot be an idiot in those areas. He rode the coattails of Joachim Loew's tactical nous with Germany and got totally exposed with Bayern. Then we buried our heads in the sand about that warning and were surprised when he still turned out to be a tactics idiot with the USMNT.

So he "convinced" some Bundesliga players to play for the US. There is little evidence that Germany had any interest in any of those guys, or I'm sure they would have chased that opportunity. Timothy Chandler, for example, wanted to play in the 2014 World Cup and the way to do that is NOT to be a cap-tied German who plays the same position as Philipp Lahm. There was no way Loew would ever displace their world-class captain to left back, which he didn't like playing any more, to make room for the likes of Timmy Chandler. The dumbest thing was how long it apparently took Chandler to figure that out. John Brooks? At the time he was cap-tied, he was blocked in Germany by the likes of Jerome Boateng and Mats Hummels. Fabian Johnson? Was barely playing for Wolfsburg, wasn't going to get a look with all the other horses the Germans had in the barn. Getting these guys to switch when they would have either been buried deep on the bench with Roman Weidenfeller or not made the squad at all is not such a coup.

IMO it was time for him to go. That second half at Costa Rica was a team that had quit. Once that happens, coach is gone.

Anonymous wrote:Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena never lost to Mexico at home in WC qualifying. Or got spanked 4-0 by Costa Rica. Agree with most of the above -- MLS blows, Bradley Jr. plays in slow motion, Altidore has bricks for feet -- but klinsmann had to go.

arena is not the answer.

van gaal, bielsa, bianchi.....ffs, the chinese (who are a worse footballing nation than us) have marcelo lippi!

Bob Bradley and Bruce Arena never lost to Mexico at home in WC qualifying. Or got spanked 4-0 by Costa Rica. Agree with most of the above -- MLS blows, Bradley Jr. plays in slow motion, Altidore has bricks for feet -- but klinsmann had to go.

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Holy sh!t, are you people on drugs? While I agree it was time for him to go, he was fighting with one hand behind his back his entire tenure. We have systematic problems with the sport in this country and Klinsmann was fighting to change this. Until we see that MLS is part of the problem and not the solution, we will be mired in mediocrity or worse for the next few generations.

Look at the team that was on the pitch for those two recent losses. That's the best this generation has to offer? Michael Bradley is a trainwreck. Jozy's first touch is embarrassingly bad. Pulisic is the future, but what does he have around him?

+1. How is Bradley still playing on this team?

Politics and daddy's influence.

Like I said, it starts at the youngest ages and goes all the way to our National teams.

his dad is shitting the bed at the bottom of the league in the EPL. looks like a clown on the touchline

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy sh!t, are you people on drugs? While I agree it was time for him to go, he was fighting with one hand behind his back his entire tenure. We have systematic problems with the sport in this country and Klinsmann was fighting to change this. Until we see that MLS is part of the problem and not the solution, we will be mired in mediocrity or worse for the next few generations.

Look at the team that was on the pitch for those two recent losses. That's the best this generation has to offer? Michael Bradley is a trainwreck. Jozy's first touch is embarrassingly bad. Pulisic is the future, but what does he have around him?

+100

My sons (8 and 11) asked me why Klinsmann was fired. I said US establishment didn't like him because he was always putting down the MLS and he wanted his national team members to play in Europe not MLS because the MLS is not high-level soccer.

My 11-year old responded "well, the MLS does suck". I said "exactly". This is a case of fighting and trying to do the right thing g even if it will cost you a job.

My kid sees the hypocrisy at the big clubs in our area too. So much politics and cow-towing and big kids with zero first touch, etc. The sport in this country is a losing battle.

Really? He was fired because he put down MLS? That is what you told your kid?

not pp - it's not the main reason for sure. but it definitely contributed. klinsmann pushed for all the talents to go to europe asap.

don garber and SUM did not like that.

Anonymous wrote:I love soccer but I'd rather watch a college game than an MLS game. Its too bad.

uhh - college soccer doesn't even follow fifa rules - it is horrid.

mls is trash though.

nwls (pro women's soccer) is the best domestic countries.

gulati is a fucking clown - in any other country he would never be in charge of a national FA.

i knew he would arena.

American football is going backwards.

we finally have a genuine potential world class talent in pulisic. This is when you bring in a carlos bianchi or marcelo bielsa.

bruce fucking arena? Are you kidding?!?!??!

even louis van gaal would be better if you didn't want to give it to a south american

I love soccer but I'd rather watch a college game than an MLS game. Its too bad.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Holy sh!t, are you people on drugs? While I agree it was time for him to go, he was fighting with one hand behind his back his entire tenure. We have systematic problems with the sport in this country and Klinsmann was fighting to change this. Until we see that MLS is part of the problem and not the solution, we will be mired in mediocrity or worse for the next few generations.

Look at the team that was on the pitch for those two recent losses. That's the best this generation has to offer? Michael Bradley is a trainwreck. Jozy's first touch is embarrassingly bad. Pulisic is the future, but what does he have around him?

+100

My sons (8 and 11) asked me why Klinsmann was fired. I said US establishment didn't like him because he was always putting down the MLS and he wanted his national team members to play in Europe not MLS because the MLS is not high-level soccer.

My 11-year old responded "well, the MLS does suck". I said "exactly". This is a case of fighting and trying to do the right thing g even if it will cost you a job.

My kid sees the hypocrisy at the big clubs in our area too. So much politics and cow-towing and big kids with zero first touch, etc. The sport in this country is a losing battle.

Really? He was fired because he put down MLS? That is what you told your kid?