Anonymous
Post 11/19/2016 07:21     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So if 20-30% retire (and these are the ones who are the agency experts at the 15 and SES levels) and then Trump imposes a freeze on hiring new staff, those of us young GS-13s and 14s will be in hog heaven.


Your workload will increase signficantly. But you knew that, of course.

And morale will be pretty dismal, but a businessman like Trump knows that morale... Oh, never mind.

Yup. That's what happened in every private industry job I had. if the business wasn't doing well, they laid off people and divided the work among those who remained. Morale wasn't good, but those of us who still has a job were thankful. Welcome to the real world.
Anonymous
Post 11/19/2016 07:21     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Helluva lot more than the CIA.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_agencies_in_the_United_States


Consolidate and cut the pork... and there's a metric shit-ton of it.


If a huge chunk of CIA and defense and NSA personnel leave all at once because of disgust with the incoming admin, are you going to celebrate? I'm sure ISIS and the Russians will.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:16     Subject: Federal exodus
Helluva lot more than the CIA.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_agencies_in_the_United_States


Consolidate and cut the pork... and there's a metric shit-ton of it.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:13     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did not mean enough people in terms of numbers, I meant in terms of willingness. Many things can be delayed by a lack of morale and motivation- and firing is not a great option eithe because then you need to replace to many people and who is going to train them, etc etc.


You don't need them or their work product in the first place. What is so difficult to grasp about this? You replace nothing. Just shut a lot of it down. It will never be missed.


Just so we're all on the same page here. We're talking about State, Defense, CIA, mostly.


So how is your darling Sessions going to prosecute Illegals and other criminals without DOJ employees?
How are we going to fight ISIS without CIA analysists? What about Medicare reimbursements? Oh yes, forgot GOP wants to get rid of that...oh no wait, President-Trum said he is going to keep it...hmm...
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:13     Subject: Federal exodus
that's easy. Go to http://www.usdebtclock.org and look in the upper left corner in the section of "largest budget items. You'll see where most of the money is going. It's transfer payments.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:09     Subject: Federal exodus
Look at the federal budget and see where most of the money is going. It's not to Feds. Now be wise like a bank robber and rob where the money is.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:09     Subject: Federal exodus
(GDP growth)
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:09     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I did not mean enough people in terms of numbers, I meant in terms of willingness. Many things can be delayed by a lack of morale and motivation- and firing is not a great option eithe because then you need to replace to many people and who is going to train them, etc etc.


You don't need them or their work product in the first place. What is so difficult to grasp about this? You replace nothing. Just shut a lot of it down. It will never be missed.


Just so we're all on the same page here. We're talking about State, Defense, CIA, mostly.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:09     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wow, time to get rid of half of it's silly servants. It's a drain and we need to shrink the government and make it more agile.


Are you stuck in 1980? That's what it sounds like.


No, I'm stuck in 2016, where GDP hovers around 2% because the more Washington does, the worse things get.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:08     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:I did not mean enough people in terms of numbers, I meant in terms of willingness. Many things can be delayed by a lack of morale and motivation- and firing is not a great option eithe because then you need to replace to many people and who is going to train them, etc etc.


You don't need them or their work product in the first place. What is so difficult to grasp about this? You replace nothing. Just shut a lot of it down. It will never be missed.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:07     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:Wow, time to get rid of half of it's silly servants. It's a drain and we need to shrink the government and make it more agile.


Are you stuck in 1980? That's what it sounds like.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:06     Subject: Federal exodus
Wow, time to get rid of half of it's silly servants. It's a drain and we need to shrink the government and make it more agile.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:05     Subject: Federal exodus
I did not mean enough people in terms of numbers, I meant in terms of willingness. Many things can be delayed by a lack of morale and motivation- and firing is not a great option eithe because then you need to replace to many people and who is going to train them, etc etc.
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:05     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what the deputy to the deputy to the assistant deputy of deputies for the mid-eastern kugel inspection branch will do when they have to get a job in the private sector. Could be interesting.


More people get sick from contaminated food. It'll be great.


There's no one checking the contaminated food now. They're all in federal agencies in DC surfing the internet, yammering in meetings about the most inane shit and trying to figure out the proper pantone shade of red to use in the next interdepartmental logo for the new org chart (and reviewing if times roman courier new 12 is the proper font to express their mission... which is the inspection of peapods in the northwest Idaho sector). It's a very impotent job, doncha know!


Wow - so biting and edgy!
Anonymous
Post 11/18/2016 23:02     Subject: Federal exodus
Anonymous wrote:A friend of mine described the mood at her agency as 'suicidal'. You mighy enjoy that notion, if you are one of those who hate the government. However, when the President will need something done and not enough people are there to do it, it will be bad for all.


How can the federal government not be big enough. It's bigger than ever before. It's THE biggest employer in the world.

Here are the largest employers, behind the U.S. government:

China's People's Liberation Army, 2.3 million workers.
Walmart, 2.1 million.
McDonald's, 1.9 million.
UK National Health Service, 1.7 million.
China National Petroleum Corporation, 1.6 million.
State Grid Corporation of China, 1.5 million.

WTF, over???