Please write and get involved to campaign for the national popular vote initiative.

maryland is on board but of course as usual VA (a true stars and bars slave state) is not.

If you live in VA and are a liberal and are not doing your part in pushing for this, you are complicit in the current state of affairs

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

Trump was against the Electoral College and called it a "DISASTER for DEMOCRACY"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/09/trump-called-electoral-college-disaster-2012-tweet/93575326/

So...you're saying he should reject the win? Work to have it changed if you feel strongly about it, but what's done is done.

No let the loser keep the presidency in 2016 BUT he surely didn't win a mandate as many are claiming. There should atleast be a realization the EC system is anti-democratic by diluting votes from CA, NY etc by significant margin that it alters the result.

Anonymous wrote:Electoral college = slavery?

You do realize the electoral college favors the Dems? Usually the Dems only need to pick up one or two states to win it. Many republicans for strategic reasons involved to do away with the college.

It doesn't matter which party it favors. It doesn't favor a voter from CA or NY when compared to a voter from WY or Idaho. A CA voter is literally disenfranchised in this country. Its like 1 WY vote = 4 CA votes. How is it fair for CA when that is the largest state that contributes the most to the country but is essentially powerless. Checkout how skewed the EC is against CA.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2012/11/presidential_election_a_map_showing_the_vote_power_of_all_50_states.html

I don't think it's right to call people's legitimate concern for the welfare of this country and it's citizens whining.

Perhaps they are misguided and there are better avenues to make sure their concerns or addressed.

But this is far from whining.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

Trump was against the Electoral College and called it a "DISASTER for DEMOCRACY"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/09/trump-called-electoral-college-disaster-2012-tweet/93575326/

So...you're saying he should reject the win? Work to have it changed if you feel strongly about it, but what's done is done.

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree, but I don't think it should be changed because people didn't like the result of this election. People should work on it for the next.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

NO in any other country in the world, a Majority vote winner is the president BUT then USA is a FAKE democracy which picks the LOSER to be president. The real loser in this is the TRUMP voter who is gonna be screwed by a recession that is gonna follow the tax cuts for the rich and the environment. Trump is not gonna get any jobs from the machines or from China. Coal is a dead industry with Solar costing lower than Coal and going lower.

K

And, you really think that HRC would have brought jobs here? Seriously?

Hillary never claimed she will bring back Coal or Manufacturing jobs. Hillary was all about retraining or education needed for those who lost the jobs to get jobs in New energy companies, emerging industries and other service businesses.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

So we should ignore Trump's own advice from 2012, when he thought Romney was going to win the popular vote and lose the electoral?

Yes

Electoral college = slavery?

You do realize the electoral college favors the Dems? Usually the Dems only need to pick up one or two states to win it. Many republicans for strategic reasons involved to do away with the college.

Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

Trump was against the Electoral College and called it a "DISASTER for DEMOCRACY"

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/09/trump-called-electoral-college-disaster-2012-tweet/93575326/

Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

So we should ignore Trump's own advice from 2012, when he thought Romney was going to win the popular vote and lose the electoral?

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Anonymous wrote:http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/

It is that simple. This is a great test to see if someone is racist or not. Ask if they agree with the EC. If they do, then you know the answer.

I see you started another thread. Well, I posted this to your sharing of that link on another and jic you don't see it there, here it is ON TOPIC with this one.

"One Founding-era argument for the Electoral College" You have taken that, and made it a fact. Not even the writer of the article did that. The writer did go on to share what he believes is the reason almost as if it is fact. See, he can do that since he prefaced it as he did. In other words, it's the writers opinion.

I would hope you have a broader knowledge of the balance of power, states rights, etc. but I won't hold out hope.

New PP. I didn't start this thread. There are so many books written about the evolution of Electoral College. The southern states didn't have the WHITE POPULATION to compete with the North in national elections because the blacks cant vote. This would have guaranteed Northern politicians winning the presidential election every time. To prevent this from happening the southern politicians created the Electoral College which includes the Black population without giving them a vote. This is the fundamental reason for the Electoral College. There are variations of this theory but the basic thing is EC is rooted in Racism.

http://fusion.net/story/369039/electoral-college-racist-trump/

http://atlantablackstar.com/2016/11/12/electoral-college-origins-slavery/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-a-goodman/electoral-college-hidden-problem_b_2046957.html

I'm horrified by Trump but don't understand the OP at all and think that the idea of switching the elector votes at this point is not a good idea as tempting as it is to imagine. It would lead to violence. Everyone knew these were the rules of the road.

The only exception I see is if something came up about Trump between now and 12/19 so obviously disqualifying that there was agreement about on both sides of the aisle, but in that case I would assume the Republican electors would switch to Pence.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

NO in any other country in the world, a Majority vote winner is the president BUT then USA is a FAKE democracy which picks the LOSER to be president. The real loser in this is the TRUMP voter who is gonna be screwed by a recession that is gonna follow the tax cuts for the rich and the environment. Trump is not gonna get any jobs from the machines or from China. Coal is a dead industry with Solar costing lower than Coal and going lower.

K

And, you really think that HRC would have brought jobs here? Seriously?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg enough already you sore loser libs. Go away. Go start working on your dumbass "mail safety pins to trump" campaign. YOU. LOST.

NO in any other country in the world, a Majority vote winner is the president BUT then USA is a FAKE democracy which picks the LOSER to be president. The real loser in this is the TRUMP voter who is gonna be screwed by a recession that is gonna follow the tax cuts for the rich and the environment. Trump is not gonna get any jobs from the machines or from China. Coal is a dead industry with Solar costing lower than Coal and going lower.

K