Anonymous
11/13/2016 08:28
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, if you are going to win the midwestern electoral votes, you will need to find someone who can work with them.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-election-came-down-to-107330-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan/article/2005323
But in 2012, black voters made up 13 percent of the electorate; in 2016, they comprised just 10 percent of the electorate.
In terms of raw votes, that means roughly 130,000 fewer African-Americans voted in Pennsylvania in 2016 than voted in 2012. If those voters had shown up on Tuesday, that alone would've been enough for Clinton to hold Pennsylvania by a razor-thin margin.
Michigan and PA flip if black turnout was same as 2012.
if same as 2008, pa, michigan, and wisc all stay blue.
two things - 2020 nominee cannot be a non-black. and neither can dnc chair.
You are an idiot. The current dnc chair is black, how did that work out? It should be someone who has shown an ability to turn purple states blue, regardless of color.
Anonymous
11/13/2016 08:26
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:I would love to see Ellison get the position and glad to see that Schumer is supporting him.
Jeff - ellison should NOT get it unless he agrees to step down from his seat in congress.
This is not a part time job.
DWS wasn't required to step down. If Ellison thinks he can do both jobs, he should be allowed.
And she did a shitty job. When it was a full time job, Howard Dean, the 50 state strategy was very successful. I wouldn'tthe mind see Dean do it again, or whomever is the mastermind behind Reid's machine in Nevada.
Anonymous
11/13/2016 08:22
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
jsteele wrote:I would love to see Ellison get the position and glad to see that Schumer is supporting him.
Not Ellison, it is a full time job and he has much work to do in Congress.
Anonymous
11/13/2016 08:18
Subject: New DNC chair
So much racism on this thread...??
Anonymous
11/12/2016 18:46
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
I would not make the black vote in Wisconsin a pivot point for selection of a DNC chair. Blacks who have the financial, social and educational means to leave are doing so. The ones who cannot leave are looking to hide, or are being incarcerated. In any of these states, the new chair must be able to connect with minority votes and middle class to wealthy donors.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 18:00
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:Yes, if you are going to win the midwestern electoral votes, you will need to find someone who can work with them.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/the-election-came-down-to-107330-votes-in-pennsylvania-wisconsin-and-michigan/article/2005323
But in 2012, black voters made up 13 percent of the electorate; in 2016, they comprised just 10 percent of the electorate.
In terms of raw votes, that means roughly 130,000 fewer African-Americans voted in Pennsylvania in 2016 than voted in 2012. If those voters had shown up on Tuesday, that alone would've been enough for Clinton to hold Pennsylvania by a razor-thin margin.
Michigan and PA flip if black turnout was same as 2012.
if same as 2008, pa, michigan, and wisc all stay blue.
two things - 2020 nominee cannot be a non-black. and neither can dnc chair.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:53
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Russ Feingold. I don't know why people are arbitrarily saying someone under 50...you were willing to vote for Bernie or Hillary.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:51
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Yes, if you are going to win the midwestern electoral votes, you will need to find someone who can work with them.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:43
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:I know Mark Dayton left a bad aftertaste last time he was in Washington, but is very popular in the Upper Midwest.
he threw obama under the bus on O-care months before.
MN was barely held by HRC.
no way.
old white guy? seriously? That's the optics you want to send out?
If they have to be white, it has to be a bona fide progressive under the age of 50
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:40
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
I know Mark Dayton left a bad aftertaste last time he was in Washington, but is very popular in the Upper Midwest.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:37
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:I know Barbara Boxer is older, but she is retiring, has years of experience, and is from CA.
Zephyr Teachout?
seirously - old white (well I know she's jewish - I don't know if she's a jew who doesn't consider herself white or if she is one that does, but the average public will think she is white) non-progressive woman?
Teachout is a good suggestion. I like her even though she got hammered on election night.
jsteele
11/12/2016 17:36
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:I would love to see Ellison get the position and glad to see that Schumer is supporting him.
Jeff - ellison should NOT get it unless he agrees to step down from his seat in congress.
This is not a part time job.
DWS wasn't required to step down. If Ellison thinks he can do both jobs, he should be allowed.
yeah dws was a real success there - i expect better from you jeff
Her failures were not caused by her having two jobs. Indeed, one could argue that she performed her role at the DNC of ensuring Clinton's nomination quite well. Might have been better for everyone if she had been too busy.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:30
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
I know Barbara Boxer is older, but she is retiring, has years of experience, and is from CA.
Zephyr Teachout?
Zephyr Teachout?
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:19
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:I would love to see Ellison get the position and glad to see that Schumer is supporting him.
Jeff -- a little off topic but what do you know about how Trump and Schumer get along
I can't tell you specifically anymore, but I lived in NYC and had a friend who's family was very well connected to NY politics. At that time, Schemer and Trump got a long VERY well. But no surprise for two reasons. Schemer gets along with everyone (he's a very nice personable guy) and everyone loved Trump.
Now? Who knows. Their relationship was one of political and practical convenience as much as anything, so if that value disintegrated . . . .
Schumer does not get along with real progressives. We know what he is and who he is.
Anonymous
11/12/2016 17:18
Subject: Re:New DNC chair
Anonymous wrote:Yes, I realize the other thread is on-going. I was intending a discussion about the future, not about why Hillary lost.
My point: There are dozens of bright Dems in Congress who are well-connected, well-funded, and reasonably down to earth. But with the Senate in such tight straits, someone who has the time and expertise to lead, and less of a personal interest needs to be there.
Could we please continue with ideas?
Van Jones.
1. It has to be a minority. Without minority turnout, we are in shitty shape for 2020.
2. It has to be a progressive
3. It has to be relatively young(ish) - no 60+ year old retreads
4. It has to be someone who does not have another job. This is a 100 hour a week job.