Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:55     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:I am pro choice. I vote Democrat pretty much across the board. I support low-income families and women in special circumstances through charitable donations to worthy homes and shelters.

But I also do believe that it is a preventable, heart-wrenching shame that more people don't practice safe sex, and essentially use abortion as birth control. If your condom breaks, that's one thing. If you just were "winging it" and got "caught up in the moment," that is truly a devastating situation that you have created for yourself.

And to the women who have more than one abortion-as-birth-control? Really? That's just horrible. It just is.

there are more, much more horrible thing happened to unwanted babies. Abortion is lesser evil IMHO
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:54     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:I am pro choice. I vote Democrat pretty much across the board. I support low-income families and women in special circumstances through charitable donations to worthy homes and shelters.

But I also do believe that it is a preventable, heart-wrenching shame that more people don't practice safe sex, and essentially use abortion as birth control. If your condom breaks, that's one thing. If you just were "winging it" and got "caught up in the moment," that is truly a devastating situation that you have created for yourself.

And to the women who have more than one abortion-as-birth-control? Really? That's just horrible. It just is.


I agree. I think abortion is generally terrible.

However, I also know that the government's jurisdiction should not reach into my uterus.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:49     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
I am pro choice. I vote Democrat pretty much across the board. I support low-income families and women in special circumstances through charitable donations to worthy homes and shelters.

But I also do believe that it is a preventable, heart-wrenching shame that more people don't practice safe sex, and essentially use abortion as birth control. If your condom breaks, that's one thing. If you just were "winging it" and got "caught up in the moment," that is truly a devastating situation that you have created for yourself.

And to the women who have more than one abortion-as-birth-control? Really? That's just horrible. It just is.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:44     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:Choices with consequences.


OK consequences, such as not having to raise a baby you can't afford, finishing your education, deciding the size of your family with your partner, etc. Those certainly are some "consequences" as well. But I'm sure you just wanted to focus on all the ways "these women" are sluts and deserve to suffer.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:44     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.


And in America in 2016, one of those consequences is having to have an abortion.


There is no such thing as HAVING to have an abortion. There is CHOOSING to have an abortion. See the difference?

Yes, so what? Some women choose to have abortion, nothing wrong with that: their body - their choice
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:43     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.


And in America in 2016, one of those consequences is having to have an abortion.


There is no such thing as HAVING to have an abortion. There is CHOOSING to have an abortion. See the difference?


I do see the difference, because I did choose to have an abortion. An abortion that I absolutely had to have.
- America in 2016 PP
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:33     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Choices with consequences.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:32     Subject: Re:S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:How would you feel that you were a product of rape? That your father forced your Mom to have sex with him? Or that your grandfather is your Dad? In the incest case the fact that there is a father or uncle means a high likeihood of birth defects. In regards to rape would you then force the woman to keep the baby and then have to see her rapist every day? Or give the baby up and expect the baby to want to find her?

Every baby wants to be born out of love and I think it is too harsh to expect someone to deal with that.


I know someone who was adopted and went looking for her birth mother. Found her and discovered that she was the result of a gang rape. No clue who the dad was among the many participants. It messed her up but good to get that information.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:31     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


It always has been.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:29     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.


Well, to use your analogy, we all know the natural consequences to not wearing your seat belt - if you get into a car accident, you may be injured or killed.
What you seem to be suggesting is that certain people (i.e. you, lawmakers, Joe Schmo down the street) should be able to dictate to someone what her, yes only her, consequences should be based on your belief system.
People, yes people, who have unprotected sex get to decide what the "consequences" are, or let's say outcomes, shall we? - an unplanned baby or an abortion. That's their choice. It's not your position to shame them. It's their choice, all the way through.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:27     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.


And in America in 2016, one of those consequences is having to have an abortion.


There is no such thing as HAVING to have an abortion. There is CHOOSING to have an abortion. See the difference?
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:27     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.


And in America in 2016, one of those consequences is having to have an abortion.


Yup. And btw, women get pregnant when using birth control as well. No need to be so judgy.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:26     Subject: Re:S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
How would you feel that you were a product of rape? That your father forced your Mom to have sex with him? Or that your grandfather is your Dad? In the incest case the fact that there is a father or uncle means a high likeihood of birth defects. In regards to rape would you then force the woman to keep the baby and then have to see her rapist every day? Or give the baby up and expect the baby to want to find her?

Every baby wants to be born out of love and I think it is too harsh to expect someone to deal with that.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:25     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.


And in America in 2016, one of those consequences is having to have an abortion.
Anonymous
Post 10/17/2016 15:23     Subject: S/o explain "except for rape and incest"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because the woman had no choice in the case of rape and incest. And in the case of she chose to have sex--chose to engage in the activity that CAUSES pregnancy, and chose not to use protection--well, then this is the result of her choices.

Don't want to fail out of college? Go to class, study, turn in the work. You may still fail, but at least you did everything you could not to.

Don't want to have your possessions to be stolen? Lock your doors and windows, and get a security system. You may still be robbed, but you took reasonable precautions against it.

Don't want to have a baby? Use protection. You may still get pregnant, but at least you took reasonable measures against it.


So exactly what 13:50 said, it's about punishing women for having sex.


Nope. Have all the sex you want. But practice safe sex. COME ON. We wear seatbelts in cars. No, that doesn't guarantee our safety, but you do what you can. And when you don't, yes, there are consequences.