Anonymous
10/13/2016 20:51
Subject: With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
I'm still laughing about Ireland and the UK.
Anonymous
10/09/2016 16:54
Subject: Re:With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's cheaper even without the current exchange rates. DC went to grad school there, a top program, and it was a bargain.
Where?
Unless it was Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Bristol, Edinburgh, York or Exeter (or the Coutauld Institute) it was a waste of time.
Wow, thanks for the vote of confidence. Not sure what in my post required that kind of dick response. Yes it was a Russell Group university. The fees for international students are pretty similar, if not the same, across most of those schools.
Anonymous
10/09/2016 10:35
Subject: With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
0219 has an excellent write up.
for the mature, focused, and auto-didactic kid british schools are an excellent fit.
most american kids would struggle due to their comfort and need of hand-holding.
for the mature, focused, and auto-didactic kid british schools are an excellent fit.
most american kids would struggle due to their comfort and need of hand-holding.
Anonymous
10/09/2016 09:25
Subject: With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
PP thanks for posting about the differences. Very important to know before going.
Anonymous
10/09/2016 02:19
Subject: Re:With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
For parents considering UK universities, keep in mind they generally offer a different type of college experience than American schools.
Outside Oxford/Cambridge and a few places like Durham, most universities are not as neatly organized as a typical US college or university campus, with lovely quads and and a neatly defined environment. It's sort of ironic because Oxford/Cambridge were the direct inspiration for the model of American colleges and universities, yet few other British universities followed similar models (which is why Oxbridge is so unique and sought after in the UK). Many, particularly the post-war universities, are pretty ugly. They won't have the same range of facilities or all the bells and whistles (although this is starting to change somewhat).
Beyond the physical appearances of the campuses, there's also the approach to education. In general, I find British universities expect their students to be a lot more independent and in control of their education, there's far less hands holding. You study your course (math, science, history etc) with limited opportunities to study other disciplines. The focus is your speciality, not a broad exposure to multiple offerings. The grading will be heavily based on a limited number of exams and papers, so a low score (or a failure) on one exam or paper can really ruin your grade and chance of passing the course. You tend not to have the multiple smaller quizzes, exams or papers as a back up. While Oxbridge is famous for its tutorial model (once again serving as an inspiration for the US approach to higher education) the bulk of courses at most universities are straightforward lectures with minimal discussion (this is the continental, or German, model). I'm not saying there aren't tutorial style discussions at non-Oxbridge universities, just that the bulk of your classes will be lectures.
Just a few things to keep in mind. UK universities can be wonderful, stimulating places, but you should be clear on exactly how they're structured and what kind of education model they offer and what the expectations are from the student regarding the university. They are not exactly the same as their US counterparts.
Outside Oxford/Cambridge and a few places like Durham, most universities are not as neatly organized as a typical US college or university campus, with lovely quads and and a neatly defined environment. It's sort of ironic because Oxford/Cambridge were the direct inspiration for the model of American colleges and universities, yet few other British universities followed similar models (which is why Oxbridge is so unique and sought after in the UK). Many, particularly the post-war universities, are pretty ugly. They won't have the same range of facilities or all the bells and whistles (although this is starting to change somewhat).
Beyond the physical appearances of the campuses, there's also the approach to education. In general, I find British universities expect their students to be a lot more independent and in control of their education, there's far less hands holding. You study your course (math, science, history etc) with limited opportunities to study other disciplines. The focus is your speciality, not a broad exposure to multiple offerings. The grading will be heavily based on a limited number of exams and papers, so a low score (or a failure) on one exam or paper can really ruin your grade and chance of passing the course. You tend not to have the multiple smaller quizzes, exams or papers as a back up. While Oxbridge is famous for its tutorial model (once again serving as an inspiration for the US approach to higher education) the bulk of courses at most universities are straightforward lectures with minimal discussion (this is the continental, or German, model). I'm not saying there aren't tutorial style discussions at non-Oxbridge universities, just that the bulk of your classes will be lectures.
Just a few things to keep in mind. UK universities can be wonderful, stimulating places, but you should be clear on exactly how they're structured and what kind of education model they offer and what the expectations are from the student regarding the university. They are not exactly the same as their US counterparts.
Anonymous
10/09/2016 00:06
Subject: With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
Anonymous wrote:UK universities would require a lot of AP classes, very high SATS and ACT results plus essays, interviews and strong recommendations.
You'd also pay "overseas" tuition which is a lot higher than the UK tuition which is currently only $9000 per term (x 3 per year). When I went to university in the UK (as a resident brit) it was still free.
Gone are those days.
lse doens't have interviews.
edinburgh's sat requirement is actually kind of low.
Anonymous
10/08/2016 23:04
Subject: Re:With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
York and Exeter are acceptable but not King's College London, Imperial, UCL, Durham or St. Andrews? Odd thing to say.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's cheaper even without the current exchange rates. DC went to grad school there, a top program, and it was a bargain.
Where?
Unless it was Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Bristol, Edinburgh, York or Exeter (or the Coutauld Institute) it was a waste of time.
Anonymous
10/08/2016 22:27
Subject: Re:With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
Anonymous wrote:It's cheaper even without the current exchange rates. DC went to grad school there, a top program, and it was a bargain.
Where?
Unless it was Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Bristol, Edinburgh, York or Exeter (or the Coutauld Institute) it was a waste of time.
Anonymous
10/08/2016 21:27
Subject: Re:With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
It's cheaper even without the current exchange rates. DC went to grad school there, a top program, and it was a bargain.
Anonymous
10/08/2016 21:07
Subject: With the Pound plunging, any parents looking at british schools?
Sorry - I meant 9000 UK pounds sterling, not dollars