Anonymous
09/30/2016 08:48
Subject: Re:s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:The dilemma is some people are simply identifying their background per the question being asked but the categories aren't very nuanced. If you are Hispanic and pass for white you my never face discrimination while if you are of African descent and Hispanic you may face the same sterotypes as AA's. There's a question of wealth, of culture and of appearance all interacting in one classification.
If you look white but speak English with a pronounced accent and have a Garcia last name, you bet you can be discriminated.
It's not all about skin color, folks.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 19:06
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Of course. Any minority besides Asian is a benefit.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 18:34
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:If the trailer park kid can't do the work and a really low score, he's not getting into an Ivy regardless of his color.Anonymous wrote:All this is why admission preferences should be given based on actual challenges, not on race. It would still benefit traditional minority classes, but there's no reason Obama's Sidwell-educated daughters (for example) should be given a preference over an underprivileged white kid (think DCUM stereotypical view of a Mississippi trailer park resident).
He shouldn't get into the Ivy, but he should have a preference over Malia at State U.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 18:32
Subject: Re:s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
The dilemma is some people are simply identifying their background per the question being asked but the categories aren't very nuanced. If you are Hispanic and pass for white you my never face discrimination while if you are of African descent and Hispanic you may face the same sterotypes as AA's. There's a question of wealth, of culture and of appearance all interacting in one classification.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 18:31
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
If the trailer park kid can't do the work and a really low score, he's not getting into an Ivy regardless of his color.Anonymous wrote:All this is why admission preferences should be given based on actual challenges, not on race. It would still benefit traditional minority classes, but there's no reason Obama's Sidwell-educated daughters (for example) should be given a preference over an underprivileged white kid (think DCUM stereotypical view of a Mississippi trailer park resident).
Anonymous
09/29/2016 17:33
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
All this is why admission preferences should be given based on actual challenges, not on race. It would still benefit traditional minority classes, but there's no reason Obama's Sidwell-educated daughters (for example) should be given a preference over an underprivileged white kid (think DCUM stereotypical view of a Mississippi trailer park resident).
Anonymous
09/29/2016 16:51
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Not true and your making it up as you go along doesn't make it so.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yet you had no problem with the poster who ASSUMES that all URMs are automatically receiving substantial additional points on standardized tests.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know what you mean when the URMs in my office are passed over for promotion. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.Anonymous wrote:Yes, the colleges add points to scores of URM. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.
Oh, I guess being brown is the only qualification for a promotion? As a URM, I don't need your handouts, freebies or pity. If you got passed over, maybe you need to work harder or smarter and not rely on being a URM to carry you through.
Because it's true.
Whether you like it or not.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 15:54
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nah, didn't help my nephew.
Some kids are beyond help.
You'd know.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 14:23
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:Nah, didn't help my nephew.
Some kids are beyond help.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 14:18
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:Yet you had no problem with the poster who ASSUMES that all URMs are automatically receiving substantial additional points on standardized tests.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know what you mean when the URMs in my office are passed over for promotion. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.Anonymous wrote:Yes, the colleges add points to scores of URM. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.
Oh, I guess being brown is the only qualification for a promotion? As a URM, I don't need your handouts, freebies or pity. If you got passed over, maybe you need to work harder or smarter and not rely on being a URM to carry you through.
Because it's true.
Whether you like it or not.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 12:18
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Nah, didn't help my nephew.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 11:45
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
And where is the anger when most assume that the poster (or student) who probably "worked harder or smarter" is still labeled a recipient of "handouts, freebies or pity?"Anonymous wrote:Yet you had no problem with the poster who ASSUMES that all URMs are automatically receiving substantial additional points on standardized tests.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know what you mean when the URMs in my office are passed over for promotion. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.Anonymous wrote:Yes, the colleges add points to scores of URM. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.
Oh, I guess being brown is the only qualification for a promotion? As a URM, I don't need your handouts, freebies or pity. If you got passed over, maybe you need to work harder or smarter and not rely on being a URM to carry you through.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 11:30
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Yet you had no problem with the poster who ASSUMES that all URMs are automatically receiving substantial additional points on standardized tests.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know what you mean when the URMs in my office are passed over for promotion. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.Anonymous wrote:Yes, the colleges add points to scores of URM. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.
Oh, I guess being brown is the only qualification for a promotion? As a URM, I don't need your handouts, freebies or pity. If you got passed over, maybe you need to work harder or smarter and not rely on being a URM to carry you through.
Anonymous
09/29/2016 09:23
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:Our DC is half Hispanic half white. Mentioned to husband (born in SA) about marking DC as Latino, but he didn't like the idea.
Saw DH had checked "white" in some other application-toddlers passport or SS card.
I'd let the kid decide what he is on college application when time comes. He speaks Spanish as his first language, but also English and Finnish.
I'd say English will take over finally since we live here.
If DC speaks Spanish as first language, and dad was born in SA, and I assume you maintain that culture and heritage alive, of course he's Hispanic.
Most Hispanics (ethnicity) are white (race).
Anonymous
09/29/2016 08:38
Subject: s/o So is helpful to be hispanic when applying for college?
Anonymous wrote:I know what you mean when the URMs in my office are passed over for promotion. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.Anonymous wrote:Yes, the colleges add points to scores of URM. It's a bit of an insult but that's how it is.
Oh, I guess being brown is the only qualification for a promotion? As a URM, I don't need your handouts, freebies or pity. If you got passed over, maybe you need to work harder or smarter and not rely on being a URM to carry you through.