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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Brown is a completely different school than Michigan.

How so?

For starters Brown is an open curriculum school. It is not for kids who need structure. My kid will be probably apply to both schools. I don't see the harm in letting them apply where they want to go and see how the finances fall. Folks on here are so quick to say you won't get any money but that is not always true and there is no way to know for sure unless you apply.

If:
--you are applying to a school that offers financial aid only, no merit aid, and
--you have run the net price calculator and/or you have run the Expected Family Contribution calculator, and
--the calculators tell you that your EFC is, say, $60,000....

YOU KNOW FOR SURE YOU AREN'T GETTING MONEY.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think a Brown degree carries the same weight as a degree from another Ivy. Too many stories of rich people just buying their kids' way into Brown. So no - not worth it. Michigan is a very good school.

This, but if she gets into Brown and gets aid, and she really wants to go. So be it.

Brown gives financial aid only, no merit aid. OP thinks they are likely to be full-pay; OP is likely correct.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Brown is a completely different school than Michigan.

How so?

For starters Brown is an open curriculum school. It is not for kids who need structure. My kid will be probably apply to both schools. I don't see the harm in letting them apply where they want to go and see how the finances fall. Folks on here are so quick to say you won't get any money but that is not always true and there is no way to know for sure unless you apply.

Above poster here. I mean the residential college at Michigan.

Look into the residential college (known as the "RC"). She could apply to that. It's very much like Brown. It's a pass/fail model. She must be proficient in a second language to graduate from the program. It also guarantees that she'll be placed in a centrally located dorm: East Quad. Then she'll have the best of both worlds.

Anonymous wrote:I love how people still think elite colleges have individual character anymore. They're all full of ambitious gunners who applied to 10-20 of them and go to the (highest ranked) one they get into.

Almost, but not quite, but thanks for playing.

Michigan has a great reputation.

If your child isn't drawn to Brown specifically and is only wary of Michigan [Total enrollment: 43,625 (2015)] because of that high school 2.0 business, I'd start labeling boxes for Ann Arbor.

I love how people still think elite colleges have individual character anymore. They're all full of ambitious gunners who applied to 10-20 of them and go to the (highest ranked) one they get into.

Anonymous wrote:I don't think a Brown degree carries the same weight as a degree from another Ivy. Too many stories of rich people just buying their kids' way into Brown. So no - not worth it. Michigan is a very good school.

This, but if she gets into Brown and gets aid, and she really wants to go. So be it.

Your dd has to be a very certain type of kid to fit in at Brown. Michigan is huge and has something for everyone. Brown is more of a liberal arts college than a university -- not much research, etc. if your dd is STEM-oriented, go with U of M for sure and even humanities U of M may be better.

My DC is at Michigan and loves it (unfortunately for $65k, not $28k). DC applied to some ivies but not Brown because it is artsy/alternative. Some kids we know who went to Brown just because it's an Ivy ended up hating it. I think you've got to love the vibe. So if she really likes Brown then she should go there. While Michigan has something for everyone its still pretty different from Brown.

Sister went to brown undergrad. Really did not likely it. Very oddly cliquish; if you weren't alternative there was little community for you . Went to UM for grad school and loved it. Highly anecdotal, but not it for what it is or is not worth.

Anonymous wrote:Have her graduate a year early from Brown and half that difference.

+1. If she's considering Brown, she probably has a bit of college credit under her belt. I graduated from an Ivy in 3 years after choosing it over a partial scholarship at Michigan and thought it tilted the cost/benefit more in favor of the expensive Ivy.

I had a similar situation when I went to university of Wisconsin. Tons of people from my high school went to UW and several lived in my dorm. However, it was totally different from high school and I don't think that's a good reason to not go to UMich (I did graduate work at UMich, so know both schools). If that's the main reason, I would tell her that you'll pay for all of UMich, but she will be responsible for the difference in tuition.

Anonymous wrote:

Brown is a completely different school than Michigan.

How so?