I'm a driver and a cyclist. I see asshole cyclists and I see asshole drivers. I consider it a wash.

Cyclists and non cyclists shod read this entire page. It explains a lot and can.maybe stop on both sides of this argument from allowing g their heads to explode.

If you really want to understand if leanr, Try to read everything. Don't cherry pick what supports your opinion.

http://www.bikexprt.com/streetsmarts/usa/chapter2a.htm

It's OK for them to take the road. Shoulders end, have debris, may not be as smooth. It is not OK for them to travel in a huge pack and take over the road. It's also not OK for them to disregard other laws (or drivers to be texting for that matter) but that's an enormous discussion in itself. If you see a pack and it makes you nervous to pass, I would just turn off and take a longer/different way or let a little time pass if possible. Same thing I would do with a really obnoxious driver who is just irritating. It's just not worth it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

You're a troll. Or, if not, why do you not ride on the shoulder??

As I said, I am entitled to the road. Why should I ride on the shoulder, where there's usually more debris? I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

Cyclists have a LOT of traffic fatalities. You should probably consider whether the driver in 2000 pound truck behind is really going to "deal" with the same consequences as you if they hit you out of impatience. (Spoiler alert: they won't. Your guts will be splayed out over the road)

Anonymous wrote:Because 98% of cyclists are complete assholes.

Yep. Sad but true.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

But you only follow the rules of the road when they are convenient to you.

Exactly

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

You're a troll. Or, if not, why do you not ride on the shoulder??

As I said, I am entitled to the road. Why should I ride on the shoulder, where there's usually more debris? I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

I want to know if you're an aggressive, tailgating, speeding, bang-a-lefting, talking and texting while driving kind of driver. I have a theory that obnoxious cyclists are obnoxious behind the wheel too.

OP here. I really have no problem with a cyclist who takes a whole lane, as long as there is another lane available to pass. If there is only one lane, then the cyclist should yield to cars that want to pass by riding either on the shoulder (if safe) or as far right as possible. Cyclists should never ride side by side, unless on a road with very light traffic, like a back country road.

And I do agree with the PP who drew a contrast between the "cyclist" in their lycra outfits vs. someone on a bike ride. The "cyclists" are really the problem here.

Anonymous wrote:Because I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

Can I please see your license plate and insurance?

In DC:

Title 18, Section 1201.1,
Every person riding a bicycle on a highway shall be subject to all the duties applicable to the drivers of motor vehicles under this title, except as otherwise expressly provided in the chapter, and except for those duties imposed by this title which, by their nature, can have no reasonable application to a bicycle operator.

No person shall drive a vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic. D.C. Code '40-703(a) and CDCR 18-22-2200.10 II. A person, driving at less than the normal speed of traffic, shall drive in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway. '40-703(a) and CDCR 18-22- 2201.3

So if you are slower than the speed limit, you are supposed to move to the right and let other vehicles pass. Some will say this is never possible, of course, and the bike can impede traffic at will because the roads are all narrow.

As for taking up the whole road:

Section 1201.7:
Persons riding upon a roadway shall not ride more than two abreast except on paths or part of roadways set aside for the exclusive use of bicycles. Persons riding two abreast shall not impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic and, on a laned roadway, shall ride within a single lane.

Title 18, 1201.2 calls for bicyclists to ride as far right as practicable.

My husband says that sometimes when he's biking to work and there are two lanes going in his direction, there are a couple of stretches where if he hugs the shoulder, cars overestimate how much room they have to pass him and they come way too close. So he says that it's actually safer for him to ride in the middle of the rightmost lane, because then cars in that lane don't try to pass him without first moving into the left lane. That's not what the OP and PP describe. I believe bicyclists are t supposed to ride two or more across but instead are supposed to ride in single file?

As I said, I am entitled to the road. Why should I ride on the shoulder, where there's usually more debris? I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

I deal with it, but not in a way you like, you weekend warrior you.

Why? So that we can follow along behind them at 4.5 mph and admire their $4,100 bike that is in no way commensurate with their fitness level.

Seriously, sir, why DO you have a carbon fiber Stradalli if that's all the power you can muster? Just in case IronMan changes its entry criteria, you'll be ready? Why? Why???

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

You're a troll. Or, if not, why do you not ride on the shoulder??

As I said, I am entitled to the road. Why should I ride on the shoulder, where there's usually more debris? I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

Anonymous wrote:Because I have the same right to the road as you. Deal with it.

You're a troll. Or, if not, why do you not ride on the shoulder??