Anonymous
Post 08/09/2016 15:29     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
I'm not religious but even I know about all the raunchy stories in the old testament. Incest, rape and murder. This should not come as a surprise...

Anonymous
Post 08/09/2016 15:25     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)


I belong to a faith whose most recent prayer book tries to eliminate all gendered references to God. The English language makes this somewhat awkward in many cases.


It doesn't matter how you "update" an ancient text according to modern ethics. If it was written with an obvious, and only male spin, the religion was created in misogyny.



Jesus preached to women (he told Martha to come out of the kitchen and join his students), he let a woman with unbound hair annoint his feet (scandalous at the time), there were women among the earliest church leaders, and more.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2016 10:56     Subject: Re:does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Abba is used in the Bible at one point. I have been told that it is akin to Daddy. Would I pray to "Daddy".....probably not. But, it is considered an "affectionate" term for God.
Anonymous
Post 08/02/2016 16:04     Subject: Re:does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Part of OP's message is a paraphrase of a wellknown scripture passage:

Ephesians 3:17ff

17 so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith. And I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lord’s holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledge—that you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2016 15:13     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)


I belong to a faith whose most recent prayer book tries to eliminate all gendered references to God. The English language makes this somewhat awkward in many cases.


It doesn't matter how you "update" an ancient text according to modern ethics. If it was written with an obvious, and only male spin, the religion was created in misogyny.



We believe that our religion evolves, and was meant to. But the problems are not necessarily with misogynistic texts - its simply difficult to avoid the third person English pronoun. Substituting "you" or "God" where ever "He" might occur can be awkward. And substituting "she" calls even more attention to gender (maybe it shouldn't, but it does)

You can try a religion that does not have references to God as a person, or you can have a religion with multiple gods, some male and some female (and maybe some you are comfortable calling "it") But that is not our religion.
Anonymous
Post 08/01/2016 13:36     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)


I belong to a faith whose most recent prayer book tries to eliminate all gendered references to God. The English language makes this somewhat awkward in many cases.


It doesn't matter how you "update" an ancient text according to modern ethics. If it was written with an obvious, and only male spin, the religion was created in misogyny.

Anonymous
Post 08/01/2016 13:16     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)


I belong to a faith whose most recent prayer book tries to eliminate all gendered references to God. The English language makes this somewhat awkward in many cases.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2016 16:27     Subject: Re:does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
I don't like the emphasis on God as "Father". But I understand the Bible in the context of when and where it was written and whom the authors probobly were. I think many Christians are unwilling to do that. When I pray, I say "Loving Spirit", "God", "Mother Father God" or something similar depending on whom I am praying with.
Anonymous
Post 07/29/2016 12:17     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Very unusual posting and reference to God the Father as "daddy." Is there some context missing from this post?


+1

I've never heard this. I don't deny it exists, but it's well outside the mainstream.



Ditto
Anonymous
Post 07/28/2016 08:33     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)


And many of us get creeped out by bigots like you. Or like Trump.


What exactly is bigoted about the above statement?? Religions that emphasize masculinity and god as male are factually misogynistic because they're built to construct divine as something masculine. A product of the patriarchal cultures the religions were made in no doubt, but this is just fact.
Anonymous
Post 07/27/2016 22:46     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
What kind of off the wall celebration were you at?

Anonymous
Post 07/27/2016 22:42     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)


And many of us get creeped out by bigots like you. Or like Trump.
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2016 19:40     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
I get creeped and weirded out by God referenced as "He," but then again the inherent misogyny of those religions makes sense with such gendering (not just Christianity, but including it of course)
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2016 19:37     Subject: does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Anonymous wrote:So a lot of people from my home town are very Christian in a strange sort of way. They talked a lot about saving, and their father, and it just rubs me the wrong way. Like a good friend from high school got married and a attendee wrote this:

Congrats to the most beautiful bride of Christ! You are a perfect picture of Christ's redemptive power. How much joy I've had watching you run into your Daddy's arms. The beauty I see on the outside pales to your beautiful heart, mind and soul. You literally jump for joy!!! May your birthday be a time when your Daddy whispers to you how deep and how long and how wide His love is for you.

This makes no sense to me because she married her husband and he is no ones daddy? It just grosses me out. I strive to be tolerant of all religion and all lifestyles but something about this sec of religion is hard for me to understand.


wait

So Daddy is God?

ew

just ew
Anonymous
Post 07/26/2016 16:51     Subject: Re:does anyone get creeped out by father references in religion?
Thisperson who calls God "daddy" is probably some Charasmatic/Pentecostal. This kind of thing would NOT be said by Confessional Protestants.( ie actual Protestants.) If you want to get an idea of what real Protestantism looks like, take a look at groups like the Orthodox Presbyterian Church(OPC), the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA), the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod ( LCMS) and the Reformed Episcopal Church. Read Luther, Calvin, and all the other great Reformers. Stay away from the Charasmatic movement.