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Anonymous wrote:I think the last parent is saying for most of the league games with NCSL he/she might make a 8am drive to her home field and make a drive to Reston around 4pm, while this means you can't leave the area for Sunday, you're not necessarily stuck in one area for the whole day.

No, what they were saying is they simply can't stomach being inconvenienced in any way. Seriously, "stuck in one area" for the whole day? It is so hard to find a mall or Panera on that off chance that your games are 8 hours apart.

They bitch about having to drive all over hell yet when their games are in one location they bitch that they are "stuck" in terrible places like McLean, Arlington, Loudoun, Chantilly, etc.

The struggle is real with them.

Please tell me you work in customer service. I'd want to hear recordings of that.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the last parent is saying for most of the league games with NCSL he/she might make a 8am drive to her home field and make a drive to Reston around 4pm, while this means you can't leave the area for Sunday, you're not necessarily stuck in one area for the whole day.

Yes. Thanks for translating my post.

I'd rather be at my house then walking around a crappy strip mall. It's better for the other player to rest at home prior to game too.

Killing time between tournament games in a rural area can be killer.

Anonymous wrote:I think the last parent is saying for most of the league games with NCSL he/she might make a 8am drive to her home field and make a drive to Reston around 4pm, while this means you can't leave the area for Sunday, you're not necessarily stuck in one area for the whole day.

Yes. Thanks for translating my post.

Anonymous wrote:I think the last parent is saying for most of the league games with NCSL he/she might make a 8am drive to her home field and make a drive to Reston around 4pm, while this means you can't leave the area for Sunday, you're not necessarily stuck in one area for the whole day.

No, what they were saying is they simply can't stomach being inconvenienced in any way. Seriously, "stuck in one area" for the whole day? It is so hard to find a mall or Panera on that off chance that your games are 8 hours apart.

They bitch about having to drive all over hell yet when their games are in one location they bitch that they are "stuck" in terrible places like McLean, Arlington, Loudoun, Chantilly, etc.

The struggle is real with them.

I think the last parent is saying for most of the league games with NCSL he/she might make a 8am drive to her home field and make a drive to Reston around 4pm, while this means you can't leave the area for Sunday, you're not necessarily stuck in one area for the whole day.

Anonymous wrote:CCL, at least in U9-U11, is all over the board in terms of competitive ability. Bethesda has good teams in CCL and then you have some CCL teams that are closer to ODSL levels.

How competitive do you expect 8 and 9 year old kids to be?

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Anonymous wrote:CCL, at least in U9-U11, is all over the board in terms of competitive ability. Bethesda has good teams in CCL and then you have some CCL teams that are closer to ODSL levels.

I'm fairly certain Bethesda doesn't play in CCL. We checked into it during tryout season for our U9.

Several years ago Bethesda was in CCL, but they left when they were admitted to the DA.

Anonymous wrote:CCL, at least in U9-U11, is all over the board in terms of competitive ability. Bethesda has good teams in CCL and then you have some CCL teams that are closer to ODSL levels.

I'm fairly certain Bethesda doesn't play in CCL. We checked into it during tryout season for our U9.

CCL, at least in U9-U11, is all over the board in terms of competitive ability. Bethesda has good teams in CCL and then you have some CCL teams that are closer to ODSL levels.

CCL competition isn't that good? What age group is this?

While I don't generally like CCL because the competition is not that good. Kids 2.5 years apart are not going to have games 8 hours apart. Maybe 3-4. But 1 game is ending and then the next kid needs to be there 1 hour early so about a 1 hour gap.

If your kids are 8 years apart maybe, but that is rare.

We read books, do picnics, do homework. It's not really that bad.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm aboard the wagon that I shouldn't have to travel too far for a game. But I also don't want the same drive every Sunday, I like going to different places for DS game. As a family we usually stick around the area(not always) and explore different parts of another county I otherwise would never have gone to.

The biggest advantage to a model like CCL is not the supposed level of competition but the club to club scheduling. If you have multiple kids playing, and they can all play on the CCL team at their club, then scheduling is sooooo much easier. Even with the travel just having all the kids at the same place for all the games is a huge advantage and selling point.

NO. It's not!! Unless you have twins in the same team.

I had two kids (2.5 years apart) both in CCL. Games were multiple hours apart. Often not at the same place.

If kid A has an 8 am game I'm not hanging out until the 4pm game.

I don't know who is spread in this fallacy.

My U9 and U12 CCL kids games did not line up.

Wow, just wow. So there is no advantage at all of being in the general area. Having both kids play at the same time on opposite sides of the beltway I suppose is better?

You really are simply just not cut out for inconvenience of any kind are you.

This is a rather typical "CCL4EVA!" response. Can't handle any criticism of the league's sales pitch, let alone of the league itself.

Frankly, the "club scheduling" is really convenient -- for technical directors who only want to see their clubs' A teams. It also helps the rare family with, say, three A-teamers on the rare occasion that all of their games are at the exact same venue.

LOL, and how do you think ANY league will make scheduling around your family any better?

As it stands now, it probably won't.

But few of these leagues claim to do so as aggressively as CCL's backers do. "Come with us, it's easy!" It's really not.

Well, EDP claims to be concentrating teams regionally, and they do so when they can, but you still have a few league games that cross a couple of state borders in addition to other events.

Admittedly, NCSL and others hardly even seem to be making the effort -- except at U9 and U10, where the "divisions" are typically clusters of clubs. Seems like they could do some "Division 4 West" and "Division 5 South" groupings to keep St. Mary's from playing all its away games in Loudoun and Prince William, but they don't do that.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm aboard the wagon that I shouldn't have to travel too far for a game. But I also don't want the same drive every Sunday, I like going to different places for DS game. As a family we usually stick around the area(not always) and explore different parts of another county I otherwise would never have gone to.

The biggest advantage to a model like CCL is not the supposed level of competition but the club to club scheduling. If you have multiple kids playing, and they can all play on the CCL team at their club, then scheduling is sooooo much easier. Even with the travel just having all the kids at the same place for all the games is a huge advantage and selling point.

NO. It's not!! Unless you have twins in the same team.

I had two kids (2.5 years apart) both in CCL. Games were multiple hours apart. Often not at the same place.

If kid A has an 8 am game I'm not hanging out until the 4pm game.

I don't know who is spread in this fallacy.

My U9 and U12 CCL kids games did not line up.

Wow, just wow. So there is no advantage at all of being in the general area. Having both kids play at the same time on opposite sides of the beltway I suppose is better?

You really are simply just not cut out for inconvenience of any kind are you.

This is a rather typical "CCL4EVA!" response. Can't handle any criticism of the league's sales pitch, let alone of the league itself.

Frankly, the "club scheduling" is really convenient -- for technical directors who only want to see their clubs' A teams. It also helps the rare family with, say, three A-teamers on the rare occasion that all of their games are at the exact same venue.

LOL, and how do you think ANY league will make scheduling around your family any better?

The solution that limits travel to les than 40 minutes and game windows for multiple kids to three hours for you is Rec soccer. End of story. NCSL, WAGS, ODSL, NPL, CCL, EDP, none, merged or not will offer you any more convenience than Rec soccer will.

Go ahead, make a giant super mega league that includes every club in the DMV and watch you bitch because now you live within one "region" that is "just perfect" but the closest club is further away than your current club is and their "region's" games are further away.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm aboard the wagon that I shouldn't have to travel too far for a game. But I also don't want the same drive every Sunday, I like going to different places for DS game. As a family we usually stick around the area(not always) and explore different parts of another county I otherwise would never have gone to.

The biggest advantage to a model like CCL is not the supposed level of competition but the club to club scheduling. If you have multiple kids playing, and they can all play on the CCL team at their club, then scheduling is sooooo much easier. Even with the travel just having all the kids at the same place for all the games is a huge advantage and selling point.

NO. It's not!! Unless you have twins in the same team.

I had two kids (2.5 years apart) both in CCL. Games were multiple hours apart. Often not at the same place.

If kid A has an 8 am game I'm not hanging out until the 4pm game.

I don't know who is spread in this fallacy.

My U9 and U12 CCL kids games did not line up.

Wow, just wow. So there is no advantage at all of being in the general area. Having both kids play at the same time on opposite sides of the beltway I suppose is better?

You really are simply just not cut out for inconvenience of any kind are you.

This is a rather typical "CCL4EVA!" response. Can't handle any criticism of the league's sales pitch, let alone of the league itself.

Frankly, the "club scheduling" is really convenient -- for technical directors who only want to see their clubs' A teams. It also helps the rare family with, say, three A-teamers on the rare occasion that all of their games are at the exact same venue.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I'm aboard the wagon that I shouldn't have to travel too far for a game. But I also don't want the same drive every Sunday, I like going to different places for DS game. As a family we usually stick around the area(not always) and explore different parts of another county I otherwise would never have gone to.

The biggest advantage to a model like CCL is not the supposed level of competition but the club to club scheduling. If you have multiple kids playing, and they can all play on the CCL team at their club, then scheduling is sooooo much easier. Even with the travel just having all the kids at the same place for all the games is a huge advantage and selling point.

NO. It's not!! Unless you have twins in the same team.

I had two kids (2.5 years apart) both in CCL. Games were multiple hours apart. Often not at the same place.

If kid A has an 8 am game I'm not hanging out until the 4pm game.

I don't know who is spread in this fallacy.

My U9 and U12 CCL kids games did not line up.

Wow, just wow. So there is no advantage at all of being in the general area. Having both kids play at the same time on opposite sides of the beltway I suppose is better?

You really are simply just not cut out for inconvenience of any kind are you.