Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Clear, understandable expectations that are known to the child such as:
*Tell us where you are going, who you are with, and what adult will be supervising
*Curfew is at dinnertime (6:30) unless you get direct permission to miss dinner at least one day in advance.
*Acheive grades of A- (or above)
*We (the parents) should know your friends, their parents, and siblings prior to setting up times (outside of organized activities) to hang out. We have ultimate say in whether we allow you to hang out with them, for how long, and doing what.
Combined with well defined, well known punishment:
*Grounding for between 1 and 5 days for either missing curfew, or not letting us know your plans in a timely manner.
*Removal from house for drug addiction
Also, keeping teens busy is equally important. We (the parents) make our teen's schedule, they can plan around it, but we schedule their days. Our goal is less then 1 hour free time a day, not always possible, but it has worked for us in the past. Sports are great, music, other organized activities. The less free time they have the less time they have to develop a marijuana addiction. Furthermore, friends met during these organized activities are more likely to pass our (the parents) muster then some sleazy, greasy-hair skaterpunk who spends his days just hangin' at the local park.
Another thing is that we have always set a good example. When my oldest (now 22) was born, we stopped drinking alcohol (period). We tried to show our kids (and teens) healthy relationships. We also gave them an in-depth talk about the dangers of addiction, truency, etc very early on.
Our kids hated the rules. Didn't understand why they couldn't just walk to their friends house and hang out all the time without telling me. Or why I insisted on an adult being present all the time. Truth is, as a social worker who works with youth (many of whom abuse drugs and alcohol) I have seen the world and know the dangers more then them. We are in the middle of a marijuana epidemic right now, I would say a vast majority of youth have at the very least experimented with Marijuana (and other drugs), with a good number succumbing to addiction to marijuana.
Ultimately, now that my kids are growing older (22, 20, and 16) they are starting to understand. My 22 year old actually thanked me last time he was home, as we were celebrating him getting his first professional job. He said how going to college, and watching so many of his peers struggle with serious physical dependence on marijuana, alcohol, and tobacco showed him how hard it must have been to do the right thing for him, and that he appreciated everything we did for him.
And that's the thing. Its not easy to keep your kids from fucking their lives up. Its changed from when we were kids, when only the absolute trashiest losers did drugs, you would be shocked. Kids with happy, healthy families are smoking weed, shooting dope, drinking booze by the gallon. Kids whose parents have no idea, because they are stuck in the 1980s when smart, well brought up kids simply had no desire to ruin their body with addictive drugs.
Not every kid is capable of getting an A- or above in every class. Heck, if a school is at all rigorous, the vast majority of kids aren't capable of this. Having a standard like this can set kids up for failure &/or discourage them from challenging themselves.
And by "removal of the house for drug addiction", did you mean you would send them to rehab to get clean? Or would you just put them out on the streets?
Anonymous wrote:Clear, understandable expectations that are known to the child such as:
*Tell us where you are going, who you are with, and what adult will be supervising
*Curfew is at dinnertime (6:30) unless you get direct permission to miss dinner at least one day in advance.
*Acheive grades of A- (or above)
*We (the parents) should know your friends, their parents, and siblings prior to setting up times (outside of organized activities) to hang out. We have ultimate say in whether we allow you to hang out with them, for how long, and doing what.
Combined with well defined, well known punishment:
*Grounding for between 1 and 5 days for either missing curfew, or not letting us know your plans in a timely manner.
*Removal from house for drug addiction
Also, keeping teens busy is equally important. We (the parents) make our teen's schedule, they can plan around it, but we schedule their days. Our goal is less then 1 hour free time a day, not always possible, but it has worked for us in the past. Sports are great, music, other organized activities. The less free time they have the less time they have to develop a marijuana addiction. Furthermore, friends met during these organized activities are more likely to pass our (the parents) muster then some sleazy, greasy-hair skaterpunk who spends his days just hangin' at the local park.
Another thing is that we have always set a good example. When my oldest (now 22) was born, we stopped drinking alcohol (period). We tried to show our kids (and teens) healthy relationships. We also gave them an in-depth talk about the dangers of addiction, truency, etc very early on.
Our kids hated the rules. Didn't understand why they couldn't just walk to their friends house and hang out all the time without telling me. Or why I insisted on an adult being present all the time. Truth is, as a social worker who works with youth (many of whom abuse drugs and alcohol) I have seen the world and know the dangers more then them. We are in the middle of a marijuana epidemic right now, I would say a vast majority of youth have at the very least experimented with Marijuana (and other drugs), with a good number succumbing to addiction to marijuana.
Ultimately, now that my kids are growing older (22, 20, and 16) they are starting to understand. My 22 year old actually thanked me last time he was home, as we were celebrating him getting his first professional job. He said how going to college, and watching so many of his peers struggle with serious physical dependence on marijuana, alcohol, and tobacco showed him how hard it must have been to do the right thing for him, and that he appreciated everything we did for him.
And that's the thing. Its not easy to keep your kids from fucking their lives up. Its changed from when we were kids, when only the absolute trashiest losers did drugs, you would be shocked. Kids with happy, healthy families are smoking weed, shooting dope, drinking booze by the gallon. Kids whose parents have no idea, because they are stuck in the 1980s when smart, well brought up kids simply had no desire to ruin their body with addictive drugs.
Anonymous wrote:Clear, understandable expectations that are known to the child such as:
*Tell us where you are going, who you are with, and what adult will be supervising
*Curfew is at dinnertime (6:30) unless you get direct permission to miss dinner at least one day in advance.
*Acheive grades of A- (or above)
*We (the parents) should know your friends, their parents, and siblings prior to setting up times (outside of organized activities) to hang out. We have ultimate say in whether we allow you to hang out with them, for how long, and doing what.
Combined with well defined, well known punishment:
*Grounding for between 1 and 5 days for either missing curfew, or not letting us know your plans in a timely manner.
*Removal from house for drug addiction
Also, keeping teens busy is equally important. We (the parents) make our teen's schedule, they can plan around it, but we schedule their days. Our goal is less then 1 hour free time a day, not always possible, but it has worked for us in the past. Sports are great, music, other organized activities. The less free time they have the less time they have to develop a marijuana addiction. Furthermore, friends met during these organized activities are more likely to pass our (the parents) muster then some sleazy, greasy-hair skaterpunk who spends his days just hangin' at the local park.
Another thing is that we have always set a good example. When my oldest (now 22) was born, we stopped drinking alcohol (period). We tried to show our kids (and teens) healthy relationships. We also gave them an in-depth talk about the dangers of addiction, truency, etc very early on.
Our kids hated the rules. Didn't understand why they couldn't just walk to their friends house and hang out all the time without telling me. Or why I insisted on an adult being present all the time. Truth is, as a social worker who works with youth (many of whom abuse drugs and alcohol) I have seen the world and know the dangers more then them. We are in the middle of a marijuana epidemic right now, I would say a vast majority of youth have at the very least experimented with Marijuana (and other drugs), with a good number succumbing to addiction to marijuana.
Ultimately, now that my kids are growing older (22, 20, and 16) they are starting to understand. My 22 year old actually thanked me last time he was home, as we were celebrating him getting his first professional job. He said how going to college, and watching so many of his peers struggle with serious physical dependence on marijuana, alcohol, and tobacco showed him how hard it must have been to do the right thing for him, and that he appreciated everything we did for him.
And that's the thing. Its not easy to keep your kids from fucking their lives up. Its changed from when we were kids, when only the absolute trashiest losers did drugs, you would be shocked. Kids with happy, healthy families are smoking weed, shooting dope, drinking booze by the gallon. Kids whose parents have no idea, because they are stuck in the 1980s when smart, well brought up kids simply had no desire to ruin their body with addictive drugs.
Anonymous wrote:I've got a teen and tween DD, and fyi DCUM recommended a book called "Yes, Your Teen is Crazy!"
One of the most comforting things about that book was that the teen actually WANTS their parent to be nerdy, etc. They hear it.
I was like you, OP, but instead of horses, it was the beach and my dog, and working. I never got into trouble. One of the things that is hard for me--I mentioned it to my DH yesterday, in fact--is that I feel like such an outlier; the parent who cannot "remember" the crazy parties and know how to deal with it, because I never went to crazy parties. Never was around the drugs. Didn't kiss anyone until I was just shy of 20 years old and in college. So all this feels like another world and I do feel a bit ill-equipped.
My teen DD sort of laughs at me for being so ancient on all this stuff. But I think it gives her a role model, and permission to also be older when doing this stuff, and also to not do some of the stuff. DH and I have made it clear that we didn't have sex in high school, and that lots of people don't, and have not done drugs. I make a big deal out of how I tried a cigarette once and thought I my lungs were going to explode.
My DD thinks it's quaint, but I think it's helped her. I remind her that it looks like everyone is doing "it" because for every loudmouth or spotlight-seeker, there are 19 others just going about their business that we don't hear or see.
I guess you use every tool in your toolbox, OP. A parent who has had a hard drug history would go the opposite way to detail how derailed she got, to discourage the behavior. Different tactic, both based on experience, both can be effective.
One thing, OP. I talked to them when they were younger. Tweens are a great age because they still listen. The stuff you input now really sticks with them; just keep repeating.
Tangent: One (not very PC) thing I always say--boys are programmed to show off when they get around girls. The presence of the female can trigger the male youth show-off behavior. Peacocks use feathers, parrots dance, rams pound their heads. Human males use tools. If their tool is a basketball or guitar, fine. The problem comes when the tool is a car or motorcycle, because you are now in a situation where you could die as a result of their showing off. So for now, don't be a passenger in these situations!