Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 07:10     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

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If it passes, Obama will blame the weak economy on brexit, and Donald Trump win is a sure thing in November.


Why would Britain voting to leave the EU cause Americans to vote for Trump?


The anti-immigration side won. Fairly significantly in fact.
This is the side represented by Trump in America. Trump was also for Brexit.
Obama urged them to remain. Obama's side lost.
What this portends for the election in the U.S. is unclear - but I will say that right up to the day of the vote most peopl though "remain" was going to win.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 07:03     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:
If it passes, Obama will blame the weak economy on brexit, and Donald Trump win is a sure thing in November.


Doubtful. The scariest headline ever just flashed on my screen: "Donald Trump comments on Brexit from his golf course in Scotland."
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 07:02     Subject: Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:They also want to control their own destinies. The EU promulgates a lot of regulations that affect British laws. Brexit advocate resent that these regulations come from Brussels where they have less control over the results. It's equivalent to states-rights advocates in the US.


Ummmm, not exactly, given that the member nations remain, well, nations ....
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 07:02     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:
If it passes, Obama will blame the weak economy on brexit, and Donald Trump win is a sure thing in November.


That's some magical thinking.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 07:01     Subject: Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Britain is leaving.

Scotland, on the other hand, is thinking very hard about how to stay. Nicola Sturgeon, the First Minister of Scotland, has said she would like to see a new independence referendum before the leave takes effect.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 06:54     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:
If it passes, Obama will blame the weak economy on brexit, and Donald Trump win is a sure thing in November.


Wanna bet on the Trump win? I say you're just blowing hot air.
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 06:50     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:
If it passes, Obama will blame the weak economy on brexit, and Donald Trump win is a sure thing in November.


Why would Britain voting to leave the EU cause Americans to vote for Trump?
Anonymous
Post 06/24/2016 03:16     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Like most Americans you probably don't realise how unpopular Tony Blair is in the UK. To say he's utterly despised is putting it mildly.

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The Queen takes her responsibilities seriously. Regardless of who the prime minister was, she treated all of them exactly the same. She is privately known to have disliked Tony Blair tremendously but she never failed to meet with him and always behaved impeccably towards him.


Wendy Deng apparently loved Blair so he probably came out ahead!
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 16:33     Subject: Please explain pros of Brexit to me

UK is NOT in Schengen.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 16:19     Subject: Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:They also want to control their own destinies. The EU promulgates a lot of regulations that affect British laws. Brexit advocate resent that these regulations come from Brussels where they have less control over the results. It's equivalent to states-rights advocates in the US.


It is beyond states rights. These are countries. If there was an American Union would you like people in Brazil, Columbia, determining your future? Your economy? Immigration? Germany is the lead in the EU. I do not agree with Obama and the putting the UK to the back of the "queue" if the vote is leave. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/434744/president-obamas-brexit-intervention

Some countries never joined the EU-Switzerland and Norway. Norway signed the Schengen Treaty so it gets migrants. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3654063/We-control-immigration-Soaring-migrant-numbers-independent-Norway-says-s-better-without-EU-meddling.html And here is Schengen http://www.schengenvisainfo.com/schengen-visa-countries-list/

Get a Schegen visa and people can go anywhere.

Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 14:47     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:

The Queen takes her responsibilities seriously. Regardless of who the prime minister was, she treated all of them exactly the same. She is privately known to have disliked Tony Blair tremendously but she never failed to meet with him and always behaved impeccably towards him.


Wendy Deng apparently loved Blair so he probably came out ahead!
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 14:17     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me


If it passes, Obama will blame the weak economy on brexit, and Donald Trump win is a sure thing in November.
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 13:48     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

I am mildly curious. Why do you think the Queen wouldn't like Boris Johnson?

Boris Johnson is one of the more popular political figures in Britain and has been for a long time and was a successful two term mayor of London until this year. By all accounts he's endearing and charming in person.

Are you simply stamping your own biases on him without really knowing who he is (i.e. he is a tory therefore he's bad)? Many Americans do this when it comes to British figures.

Anyway, the rumor is that the Queen privately supports Brexit. If true, then she can't possibly dislike Boris Johnson

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Anonymous wrote:Why not?

The Queen takes her responsibilities seriously. Regardless of who the prime minister was, she treated all of them exactly the same. She is privately known to have disliked Tony Blair tremendously but she never failed to meet with him and always behaved impeccably towards him.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?


Exactly. Same basic reactions/fears/hair


Sadly, if the vote to exit goes through, Cameron is finished. Boris is his likely successor. Could you see him sitting down for tea with the Queen every week?


Not sure she'd take the meeting.


I agree that she would uphold the tradition. She probably wouldn't care for him all that much, though. I can see her saying, "Oh shit, him again?"
Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 13:46     Subject: Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous
Post 06/23/2016 13:40     Subject: Re:Please explain pros of Brexit to me

Anonymous wrote:Why not?

The Queen takes her responsibilities seriously. Regardless of who the prime minister was, she treated all of them exactly the same. She is privately known to have disliked Tony Blair tremendously but she never failed to meet with him and always behaved impeccably towards him.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm seeing a lot of correlations between this and our own countries politics: the populist desire to not get involved with other countries and to take severe stands on immigration. I can also see a stark similarity between Boris Johnson and Donald Trump - hell, they even look alike. Could you picture these two at a G8 summit?


Exactly. Same basic reactions/fears/hair


Sadly, if the vote to exit goes through, Cameron is finished. Boris is his likely successor. Could you see him sitting down for tea with the Queen every week?


Not sure she'd take the meeting.


I agree that she would uphold the tradition. She probably wouldn't care for him all that much, though. I can see her saying, "Oh shit, him again?"