Anonymous wrote:But when it breaks nobody will know how to fix it!! ^^^

Lol. Madcap antics to follow!

Hey, given male graduation rates, I'm fairly certain anything men can figure out how to do will be easy for women. LOL!

But when it breaks nobody will know how to fix it!! ^^^

Lol. Madcap antics to follow!

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Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

No. I'll take egalitarian leaning matriarchy, please.

Males are generally horrible. Let the moms run the world.

YES.

But you have to live with , systems , inventions ,energy sources , political systems , medicine and procedures , agricultural systems, beauty products , alcoholic beverages ... Only invented by women.


Now THAT would be quality entertainment !

Nope, we can keep the old stuff, just like men have lived for years off the backs of women's labor. Vive la matriarchy!

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Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

No. I'll take egalitarian leaning matriarchy, please.

Males are generally horrible. Let the moms run the world.

YES.

But you have to live with , systems , inventions ,energy sources , political systems , medicine and procedures , agricultural systems, beauty products , alcoholic beverages ... Only invented by women.


Now THAT would be quality entertainment !

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Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

No. I'll take egalitarian leaning matriarchy, please.

Males are generally horrible. Let the moms run the world.

YES.

There is remarkably little popular understanding of male psychology in the world today. Men are highly visible in public, but discussions about men tend to be externally focused. The inner, emotional, world of men is a black box compared to the volumes that are written about women.

If you look at the animal kingdom, you will often see a pattern of a small minority of high status males with a "harem" of females. Lower status males are either killed, driven off, or are able to stay with the group, but as a lower status and typically unable to mate.

There is still an element of this in human psychology. Wage inequality is much greater among males than females. High status males have disproportionate amounts of resources and power, just as they do in other species.

Males are born at a slightly higher rate than females, even though women are the reproduction bottleneck (due to being only able to carry one child at a time, excluding twins, etc.). There is a dark reason for this -- low status males have traditionally been killed off by war and by resource competition. Low status males are regarded as the dregs of society (prison, homeless, outcasts, etc.). Male social status is typically more precarious and competitive.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's human nature to come across people at times that you feel extremely strong attraction to and want to act on it. Monogamy is a social construction.

I think this is right on. I bet many of us have met someone we were very attracted to outside of the relationship. I have a crush on someone who.isn't my husband, but haven't said a word to him since early March, and then only about mutual interests. It sucks a little bit because the other guy is so very interesting. Nut i know better than to drag them into selfish drama. *sigh* if I run into my crush at an event, I'll smile and maybe flirt a little bit, but that's it.

Monogamy does feel like a social construct, but I believe PP's history about Alphas getting all the ladies. I'm naturally drawn to the strong, capable men, too.

How would I feel if my attractive DH had multiple wives? We would get to share childcare, he would get to have sex more often and so be in a better mood, us wives would split cleaning, cooking and other chores. Maybe I would get to go have coffee with my crush since DH's sexual needs were more than met and the house was in order? Yes, please

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Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

No. I'll take egalitarian leaning matriarchy, please.

Males are generally horrible. Let the moms run the world.

As the mother of sons, I find this highly offensive.

I think it's human nature to come across people at times that you feel extremely strong attraction to and want to act on it. Monogamy is a social construction.

No, not really.

Anonymous wrote:Men made up the idea of monogamy and marriage so that they could be assured of reproductive success/ knowing who the child was.

In a world without monogamy, most women slept with multiple men (this is why men's privates are shaped as they are- I wont go into it because it would turn it into explicit but you can google this if curious) and whoever had the "fittest" gene would be the one that successfully implanted and had the child.

Also, many men didn't get sex at all- it was really the top guys sleeping with most of the women.

Anyway, this meant that about 80% of women reproduced and only about 40% of men. You can see why they wanted to implement marriage.

I for one am thrilled that the marriage system is coming to an end and fully intend to have a child on my own. Patriarchy is finally starting to be dismantled and it's about damn time!

Lol. Can't mind a man to put up with your bat shit crazy personality. Hilarious

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Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

Actually, hunter gatherer societies- which is what humans were for hundreds of thousands of years, before the rise of agriculture 12,000 years ago- tend to have monogamous marriage and were very egalitarian. In modern hunter gatherer tribes women are seen as equals, can own land and resources, have positions of leadership, and can choose their mates. Although they have monogamous marriages, both men and women are permitted to have sex with other people.

If there's any conclusion to be drawn from looking at human sexual and marriage behavior, it's that there is quite a bit of plasticity and variability, and no rules set in stone. Some people want monogamy and some don't; both are normal sexual behavior. The problem is when people lie and deceive their partners. If you want to have sex with other people, let your partner know so they can decide if they want to continue the relationship.

Personally I love being monogamous. Sex with my DH is absolutely delicious and far better than anything I had when I could sleep with whoever I wanted.

I feel the same way. I really don't like spending time one on one with many people at all and am incredibly introverted and DH the same way. He's is the only person who doesn't drain me when we spend time together and he's the only one I want to be with so for us, monogamy makes total sense.

I have a hard time understanding why my friends that really loved playing the field and dating lots of people then feel they have to settle down with only one person. It seems to make some of them unhappy and then when some of them cheat, everyone ends up hurt. I wish "monogamish" or polyamory was more openly accepted in our society rather than herding people who don't want to be monogamous into marriages that then pretty often fail.

Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

Actually, hunter gatherer societies- which is what humans were for hundreds of thousands of years, before the rise of agriculture 12,000 years ago- tend to have monogamous marriage and were very egalitarian. In modern hunter gatherer tribes women are seen as equals, can own land and resources, have positions of leadership, and can choose their mates. Although they have monogamous marriages, both men and women are permitted to have sex with other people.

If there's any conclusion to be drawn from looking at human sexual and marriage behavior, it's that there is quite a bit of plasticity and variability, and no rules set in stone. Some people want monogamy and some don't; both are normal sexual behavior. The problem is when people lie and deceive their partners. If you want to have sex with other people, let your partner know so they can decide if they want to continue the relationship.

Personally I love being monogamous. Sex with my DH is absolutely delicious and far better than anything I had when I could sleep with whoever I wanted.

I like to be monogamous and for my partner to be too. If you agree to it, then that's what you should do. Everyone has a right to what their deal breakers are. You can have sex with anyone you want-- just don't lie and break promises. Obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:In ancient times, polygamist systems ruled. One powerful man had many wives. Lower class men were locked out of the system, had short, miserable lives, and relied on opportunistic rape for reproduction, if they reproduced at all.

This is the system that feminists want to return to?

No. I'll take egalitarian leaning matriarchy, please.

Males are generally horrible. Let the moms run the world.

...and so are women who think this way. Our poor sons.

Opinion of one bitter scorned woman.

I can't imagine her damage. Probably had a terrible childhood her frame of refrences probably started with her terrible father and then she repeated patterns in her adult life. Given her attitude, feel sorry for her daughters as well. If they don't break the cycle of dysfunction, they will end up just like her, damaged goods.