Anonymous
06/06/2016 18:16
Subject: What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
OP, not to sound rude but don't get too far ahead of yourself. My child came out of Kindergarten and I, too, was blown away with how much she learned and how quickly she was able to digest and learn her lessons. Unfortunately she had sub-par teachers the next two years, and I think her learning level is at, possibly below average now. Great teachers make a huge difference. But not-so-great teachers can really slow the learning curve down as well.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 17:07
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Well in our 5 year old DD, it doesn't really show. I believed her older brother was from characteristics on the usual checklists but she isn't reading early, doesn't seem to have any particular interests and as my sister who's a GT teacher and counselor said "Sweet as anything, but gifted? Nah"
We ended up getting her tested for school reasons, and were shocked when she hit the ceiling on the test. I still have a hard time believing the results since she rarely does or says anything that seems out of the ordinary to me. All gifted really means to me (aside from the technical IQ over 130 - or in DD's case 160) is perceiving the world a little differently and thinking about it differently. With both kids, as much as anything I'm just trying to make sure that they are engaged and don't end up as troublemakers because they're bored.
We ended up getting her tested for school reasons, and were shocked when she hit the ceiling on the test. I still have a hard time believing the results since she rarely does or says anything that seems out of the ordinary to me. All gifted really means to me (aside from the technical IQ over 130 - or in DD's case 160) is perceiving the world a little differently and thinking about it differently. With both kids, as much as anything I'm just trying to make sure that they are engaged and don't end up as troublemakers because they're bored.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 16:47
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspected it when my son was 4, and had him tested that year to make sure that I wasn't being that mom who just thinks her child is gifted. The results of the testing confirmed my suspicions.
Some signs:
~intuitive grasp of math, which first showed itself at 2 and included doing multiplication in his head at the age of 4
~taught himself to ready at 4
~wrote his own name spontaneously at age 3
~very logical, methodical and matter of fact
~an acute awareness and sensitivity from an early age to topics like racism, inequality, injustices, etc.
~leadership qualities (that sometimes come off to peers as bossiness)
LOL
Anonymous
06/06/2016 16:42
Subject: What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
I have twin 6 year olds. They learn at an incredibly rapid pace at this age. They always want "something new". Both "test" at very high levels, but honestly so do a LOT of the kids in their classes (DMV area is full of 'gifted' testing kids). Early reading is not a marker of anything. Curiosity is HUGE at this age - so feed it. Read, do number theory (not basic math worksheets, but problem solving and theoretical play), practice handwriting (not about intelligence, but about being able to 'show your work' in school), go to museums and play. I was G&T as a kid - and now a gov't bureaucrat (at a good level, but still). I would say avoiding anxiety and overdoing it is worse than letting the kid play.
Anonymous
06/06/2016 15:51
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:I strongly suspected it when my son was 4, and had him tested that year to make sure that I wasn't being that mom who just thinks her child is gifted. The results of the testing confirmed my suspicions.
Some signs:
~intuitive grasp of math, which first showed itself at 2 and included doing multiplication in his head at the age of 4
~taught himself to ready at 4
~wrote his own name spontaneously at age 3
~very logical, methodical and matter of fact
~an acute awareness and sensitivity from an early age to topics like racism, inequality, injustices, etc.
~leadership qualities (that sometimes come off to peers as bossiness)
NP- my DS tested as exceptionally gifted. For me, the primary indicator is problem solving ability and applying knowledge to different situations. My DS was kind of a criminal mastermind around our house by age three.
Anonymous
06/05/2016 17:38
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
I strongly suspected it when my son was 4, and had him tested that year to make sure that I wasn't being that mom who just thinks her child is gifted. The results of the testing confirmed my suspicions.
Some signs:
~intuitive grasp of math, which first showed itself at 2 and included doing multiplication in his head at the age of 4
~taught himself to ready at 4
~wrote his own name spontaneously at age 3
~very logical, methodical and matter of fact
~an acute awareness and sensitivity from an early age to topics like racism, inequality, injustices, etc.
~leadership qualities (that sometimes come off to peers as bossiness)
Some signs:
~intuitive grasp of math, which first showed itself at 2 and included doing multiplication in his head at the age of 4
~taught himself to ready at 4
~wrote his own name spontaneously at age 3
~very logical, methodical and matter of fact
~an acute awareness and sensitivity from an early age to topics like racism, inequality, injustices, etc.
~leadership qualities (that sometimes come off to peers as bossiness)
Anonymous
06/05/2016 15:36
Subject: What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of kids are smart. I'd consider gifted, a child who is reading by 3 and doing addition, subtraction and more by 3-4 as well. Lots of kids are smart, even the underestimated ones.
Dr. Burton White and team studied well developing and talented kids for the Harvard Preschool Project. Over the decades of study, they saw that the kids who were growing especially well by 3 stayed ahead compared to majority for a long time to come.
Some skills of especially well developed 3-6 year olds:
- notice similarities, differences, logic gaps, make interesting observations.
-able to use resources creatively and efficiently. Finds new uses for common objects.
-able to empathize and see others' point of view.
-active, rich imagination
-able to organize peers and plan complicated plans.
-able to both lead and follow peers
I'm forgetting the rest. Will.post full list when home with the book " new first three years of life "
As someone who was identified as "gifted" early on (for whatever a 150 IQ buys you-- not much), this fits my observations much more closely than a precocious reader or an early sitter (thanks for the laugh, other PP!) There can be plenty of overlap, of course, but giftedness is arguably supposed to be about aptitude and problem-solving more than hard "skills." If you really wanted to use every possible method (and even trick) at your disposal, you could find a way to teach most kids to read semi-proficently by probably 4.5, and a decent number significantly earlier. The fact they could read would probably indicate they were of at least average intelligence AND didn't have a LD, and some of those kids would surely be gifted. But it wouldn't be per se evidence of giftedness. OTOH, if you never actively taught a kid under 4.5 to read, they would be a lot less likely to be able to, even if they were gifted. If they weren't even exposed to reading and printed words, even a very gifted kid could not read (obviously). So skills are a poor measure of something that is (supposed to be) a lot deeper.
To clarify the above, I say this as a person who was reading well by my 4th birthday, but whose mom actively taught her to read, flash cards from toddlerhood, etc. If she hadn't, I may have picked it up at the same time on my own, but I'd bet it might have taken another 6 months, a year... or possibly even more. And if I hadn't even been read to at ALL, I firmly believe I would have still been gifted, even though I wouldn't have started reading until much later, if ever (if I had been raised in the proverbial Amazon jungle).
Anonymous
06/05/2016 15:17
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can show up very early. There's a table of gifted milestones floating around.
http://gleigh.tripod.com/gftskills.htm
I'm really torn as to whether or not this is satire. Well played.
Yes.
I love how sitting and walking early makes one gifted
That link is hilarious!
Anonymous
06/05/2016 15:01
Subject: What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Lots of kids are smart. I'd consider gifted, a child who is reading by 3 and doing addition, subtraction and more by 3-4 as well. Lots of kids are smart, even the underestimated ones.
Dr. Burton White and team studied well developing and talented kids for the Harvard Preschool Project. Over the decades of study, they saw that the kids who were growing especially well by 3 stayed ahead compared to majority for a long time to come.
Some skills of especially well developed 3-6 year olds:
- notice similarities, differences, logic gaps, make interesting observations.
-able to use resources creatively and efficiently. Finds new uses for common objects.
-able to empathize and see others' point of view.
-active, rich imagination
-able to organize peers and plan complicated plans.
-able to both lead and follow peers
I'm forgetting the rest. Will.post full list when home with the book " new first three years of life "
As someone who was identified as "gifted" early on (for whatever a 150 IQ buys you-- not much), this fits my observations much more closely than a precocious reader or an early sitter (thanks for the laugh, other PP!) There can be plenty of overlap, of course, but giftedness is arguably supposed to be about aptitude and problem-solving more than hard "skills." If you really wanted to use every possible method (and even trick) at your disposal, you could find a way to teach most kids to read semi-proficently by probably 4.5, and a decent number significantly earlier. The fact they could read would probably indicate they were of at least average intelligence AND didn't have a LD, and some of those kids would surely be gifted. But it wouldn't be per se evidence of giftedness. OTOH, if you never actively taught a kid under 4.5 to read, they would be a lot less likely to be able to, even if they were gifted. If they weren't even exposed to reading and printed words, even a very gifted kid could not read (obviously). So skills are a poor measure of something that is (supposed to be) a lot deeper.
Anonymous
06/05/2016 14:54
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can show up very early. There's a table of gifted milestones floating around.
http://gleigh.tripod.com/gftskills.htm
I'm really torn as to whether or not this is satire. Well played.
Yes.
I love how sitting and walking early makes one gifted
And, apparently tiptoeing late does the same. Who knew.
Anonymous
06/05/2016 14:36
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can show up very early. There's a table of gifted milestones floating around.
http://gleigh.tripod.com/gftskills.htm
I'm really torn as to whether or not this is satire. Well played.
Yes.
I love how sitting and walking early makes one gifted
Anonymous
06/05/2016 14:27
Subject: What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
You would notice he is gifted well before 6.
Anonymous
06/05/2016 14:22
Subject: Re:What age does giftedness show? What does it mean anyway?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It can show up very early. There's a table of gifted milestones floating around.
http://gleigh.tripod.com/gftskills.htm
I'm really torn as to whether or not this is satire. Well played.
Ha ha same here.