DC is an absolute disgrace. I moved away last year and am so much happier not living with constant violence, litter, public urination, and the "no can do" attitude if DC government and police. I cannot figure out why anyone would willingly choose to pay the insane cost of living to deal with this third-world standard of live, especially if kids are in the picture. DC is getting worse, not better, and the incompetent city government is normalizing all sorts of minor to major social ills, from throwing trash all over the ground to murder.

This criminal sounds well versed. He created a situation to get the kid to chase him and then turned the tables on him. That's not your run of the mill criminal. No telling what he would/could have done if the kid had resisted.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I take the red line with my two kids. These news stories make me sick, and my heart goes out to the victims.
I come from a capital city where the Metro has regularly been the scene of crimes, and is really hard to police because many stations have long underground tunnels to transfer to various lines. It's a maze down there.
I never thought the DC area Metro would descend to that level. This rail network seems so small and simple. I don't understand why it can't be better watched.

The problem is not that its not being "watched". The Metro system has been taken over by savages who can get away with just about anything that they choose. Metro allows DC public school students to ride free and that leads to a mob mentality when school lets out. Whatever you do don't ride the Red Line at 3pm when Wilson gets out. You are risking your life.

The two criminals in the story were 25 and 39 years old. Not students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

You aren't wrong.

Never willingly allow yourself to be taken to a secondary crime scene. Your odds of surviving or of not being hurt drop dramatically.

Read "the gift of fear"

Oh, right. That would have been so helpful. Maybe this poor boy could have hit his attacker over the head with his copy.

You really suck.

There is no point in second guessing what this kid could have done. None of us know how we would react if we were in his position.

That doesn't make the point any less valid. If at all possible do not go to a second location. Fight your fight on the spot.

-NP

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

This sounds like victim blaming to me.

This has zero to do with parenting. Zero. You have no idea what that boy was taught, and frankly it doesn't matter. Nobody knows what they will do when they are attacked and think they are to be killed. He did what he needed to do to survive.
For the rest of his life he's going to second guess himself thanks to people like you who somehow believe rape is the victims fault and he should have fought harder.

Where is your compassion and empathy? We're talking about a child who was hurt very badly, whose own mother is probably doing everything she can not to fall apart right now and you choose to post about how you are an awesome parent and imply that she isn't because her child was assaulted.
Shame on you!

+1 - well said

Agree. Every thread on this site about instances of assault on children has posts from parents describing how their children wouldn't be a victim of something like this. In reality, when faced with such a terrifying situation, people freeze. They forget everything they know. They become the deer in the headlights.

Why do you think militaries around the world put their soldiers through so many life fire exercises and simulations of war scenarios before sending them in the field? To help them overcome that initial terror response, to get them to the point where they can do what they need to do despite their natural desire to do the opposite. That kind of training takes years and years and still fails. You telling your daughter to scream like hell, while well intentioned, doesn't mean anything in the cold harsh reality of the real world.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

You aren't wrong.

Never willingly allow yourself to be taken to a secondary crime scene. Your odds of surviving or of not being hurt drop dramatically.

Read "the gift of fear"

Oh, right. That would have been so helpful. Maybe this poor boy could have hit his attacker over the head with his copy.

You really suck.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I take the red line with my two kids. These news stories make me sick, and my heart goes out to the victims.
I come from a capital city where the Metro has regularly been the scene of crimes, and is really hard to police because many stations have long underground tunnels to transfer to various lines. It's a maze down there.
I never thought the DC area Metro would descend to that level. This rail network seems so small and simple. I don't understand why it can't be better watched.

Because the Metro police prefer to sit in their cars outside of stations than actually venture within the system. And even if they do, they only get as far as the fare gate. Metro police are basically just as lazy as the rest of the Metro workforce.

All the Metro workers and police should be fired, and they should only be rehired if they are competent. I have never seen a more obvious example of a useless work force full of lazy, do-nothing employees than the DC Metro. I'd rather they just get welfare checks than be given jobs where they just constantly screw up for people who depend on the system.

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

You aren't wrong.

Never willingly allow yourself to be taken to a secondary crime scene. Your odds of surviving or of not being hurt drop dramatically.

Read "the gift of fear"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

This sounds like victim blaming to me.

This has zero to do with parenting. Zero. You have no idea what that boy was taught, and frankly it doesn't matter. Nobody knows what they will do when they are attacked and think they are to be killed. He did what he needed to do to survive.
For the rest of his life he's going to second guess himself thanks to people like you who somehow believe rape is the victims fault and he should have fought harder.

Where is your compassion and empathy? We're talking about a child who was hurt very badly, whose own mother is probably doing everything she can not to fall apart right now and you choose to post about how you are an awesome parent and imply that she isn't because her child was assaulted.
Shame on you!

+1 - well said

so glad I no longer live anywhere near DC and don't ever plan on working there again

EVER

done with DC

Such a pity that the city doesn't protect the honest people who live there and who commute into work each day.

Fawn Hall was arrested for eating a BANANA. Now we have murders, rapes and kidnappings??????? I'm tired of "My heart goes out to the victim.' We are proposing 600 million for small, luxury homeless shelters over 30 years????, how about directing some of that to police and highly visible cameras everywhere (a discentive if there is one) so that the tax base that will foot the bill for these social programs doesn't flee the tri state region. ALL three political entities: DC, VA MD need to wake up to the metro policing issue. Congress, our Mayor is a JOKE. Ignore her demands for statehood please. INTERVENE.

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

This sounds like victim blaming to me.

This has zero to do with parenting. Zero. You have no idea what that boy was taught, and frankly it doesn't matter. Nobody knows what they will do when they are attacked and think they are to be killed. He did what he needed to do to survive.
For the rest of his life he's going to second guess himself thanks to people like you who somehow believe rape is the victims fault and he should have fought harder.

Where is your compassion and empathy? We're talking about a child who was hurt very badly, whose own mother is probably doing everything she can not to fall apart right now and you choose to post about how you are an awesome parent and imply that she isn't because her child was assaulted.
Shame on you!

DC Metro has become a protected zone...
for the criminals.

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my text messages. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

Here we go with the humble brags about how this could never happen to *my* child because I taught them X, Y, or Z.

There's no magical panacea that will protect your daughter. It's basically luck. She's been lucky so far. I hope she continues to be lucky, but to come on a thread about how a child was sexually assaulted and talk about how it would never happen to YOUR child because of your awesome parenting is reprehensible.

Anonymous wrote:I guess I'm a weird parent. I've told my DD to NEVER go with someone willingly, even if they have a weapon, esp if she is someplace where there is a crowd. She is to fight,scream, run and cause attention. The thought of someone taking her, then torture,rape, etc etc is too much, and I want her body found. The potential emotional, psychological scars is too great. Also, I've ensured Mom, House is no where listed in her phone contacts and she deletes all my texts. I've told her that even if someone tells her I would be hurt she is to NEVER NEVER go. I do hope the teen will be fine eventually.

Curious, PP--why would you do that? You know those are the first numbers that emergency personnel would look for, right?