Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 18:22     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What happened? Normally Carson, RR & Longfellow have pretty comparable number. Not this year...


It would be interesting to see if the applications rates have declined. I know anecdotally that among my circle, TJ is not the end game and this is a change from 5-6 years ago. We are at McLean HS. It may explain also why the number of NMSF has increased at McLean HS recent years.


If you assume that the kids from the AAP center middle schools are in the AAP program, more kids from Carson AAP apply (78%) than from Longfellow or Rocky Run AAP (both 56%). Maybe that means more kids at those schools are happy with their base HS options, but it could also just mean that the success at Carson triggers more interest.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 18:22     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Holy cow!! Carson for the win!! Those are some lopsided numbers. And no-- about 2700-2800 applied. All the "TS" school numbers aren't included


show me the school with the most Asians, I'll show you the school that gets the most kids into TJ. Not rocket science.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 18:18     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Almost a fifth of the class comes from Carson. 45 from Longfellow. 37 from Rocky Run. Wow! Then Kilmer and Frost with low 20s. Not bad for LB either.

But I get PPs point about Eastern FFX supporting this school when it doesn't demographically reflect the county.


I don't understand why admitted students don't need to be better distributed around the county. The other counties have limits on how many of their students can be admitted related to their financial support of the school, why shouldn't the different areas of Fairfax County be represented? We all pay taxes, it truly isn't right that one area of the county receives more of the benefits of TJ than other parts of the county. I think there should be limits similar to the limits in the other counties so that students from all over the county can benefit from TJ.


It's merit based admissions. The kids at Carson kill themselves for years to get in. I'm sure kids from other AAP Centers who work equally hard with that goal get in and benefit.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:56     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Almost a fifth of the class comes from Carson. 45 from Longfellow. 37 from Rocky Run. Wow! Then Kilmer and Frost with low 20s. Not bad for LB either.

But I get PPs point about Eastern FFX supporting this school when it doesn't demographically reflect the county.


I don't understand why admitted students don't need to be better distributed around the county. The other counties have limits on how many of their students can be admitted related to their financial support of the school, why shouldn't the different areas of Fairfax County be represented? We all pay taxes, it truly isn't right that one area of the county receives more of the benefits of TJ than other parts of the county. I think there should be limits similar to the limits in the other counties so that students from all over the county can benefit from TJ.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:48     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:What happened? Normally Carson, RR & Longfellow have pretty comparable number. Not this year...


It would be interesting to see if the applications rates have declined. I know anecdotally that among my circle, TJ is not the end game and this is a change from 5-6 years ago. We are at McLean HS. It may explain also why the number of NMSF has increased at McLean HS recent years.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:37     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Not bad on the Twain and Luther Jackson numbers given their demographics. They have been steadily rising.

Also it looks like Nysmith is the only private that does reasonably well.


Not sure about LJ's numbers improving much, or why one wouldn't expect more from LJ when most of the AAP kids there come from Madison and Oakton feeders (Flint Hill, Oakton, Louise Archer, Mosby Woods, Marshall Road, Vienna, and Cunningham Park).
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:32     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Almost a fifth of the class comes from Carson. 45 from Longfellow. 37 from Rocky Run. Wow! Then Kilmer and Frost with low 20s. Not bad for LB either.

But I get PPs point about Eastern FFX supporting this school when it doesn't demographically reflect the county.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:27     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Not bad on the Twain and Luther Jackson numbers given their demographics. They have been steadily rising.

Also it looks like Nysmith is the only private that does reasonably well.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:21     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
That's private school numbers?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 17:21     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Also 2% FARMS in this county?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 16:33     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:Holy cow!! Carson for the win!! Those are some lopsided numbers. And no-- about 2700-2800 applied. All the "TS" school numbers aren't included


Between Robinson, Lake Braddock and Irving, there were no more than 18 admitted students out of 179 applicants. It could be even fewer. Between Glasgow, Holmes and Poe, there were no more than 9 admitted students out of 114 applicants. Again, could be fewer. Meanwhile, Carson has 98 admits out of 264 applicants. It's hard to see why people in southern and eastern Fairfax should pay to support this school.


Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 16:16     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:What happened? Normally Carson, RR & Longfellow have pretty comparable number. Not this year...


That hasn't been the case for many years, and the disparity will only increase when the Cooper AAP center is fully up and running. Of course, at some point, some of the Carson AAP kids could be moved to Franklin MS.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 16:13     Subject: Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
What happened? Normally Carson, RR & Longfellow have pretty comparable number. Not this year...
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 16:11     Subject: Re:Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From FCAG:
http://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ+Class+of+2020+Admissions.pdf


Can that be right that only 1824 students applied to TJ this year? When my child applied there were over 3300. That is a huge difference. I'm surprised that there would be such a big change in just a few years. I guess it's good for kids who really want to go there since they have a much higher chance of getting in now.


There are lot of "ts" on that list and also appears to leave out Loudoun, PW, Arlington and FC school.


Thanks, I didn't add up the individual school numbers, I was reading the totals at the bottom as the overall totals including the ts numbers. I was thinking that the school must have become dramatically less selective, but that makes sense. Thanks again!


I think this is just the breakdown for students who reside in Fairfax County, so it includes FCPS schools as well as private schools and home schooled where the applicant was from Fairfax County. The totals at the end are misleading, as it doesn't account for all the "ts" values. The total number of applicants from all jurisdictions was 2,868, with 483 being offered admission:
http://commweb.fcps.edu/newsreleases/newsrelease.cfm?newsid=2955
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2016 16:02     Subject: Re:Middle school feeder data for TJ admissions?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From FCAG:
http://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ+Class+of+2020+Admissions.pdf


Can that be right that only 1824 students applied to TJ this year? When my child applied there were over 3300. That is a huge difference. I'm surprised that there would be such a big change in just a few years. I guess it's good for kids who really want to go there since they have a much higher chance of getting in now.


There are lot of "ts" on that list and also appears to leave out Loudoun, PW, Arlington and FC school.


Thanks, I didn't add up the individual school numbers, I was reading the totals at the bottom as the overall totals including the ts numbers. I was thinking that the school must have become dramatically less selective, but that makes sense. Thanks again!