Anonymous
05/19/2016 06:32
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are making flat out stupid remarks and not even knowing what your talking about. Missiles and all. Pretty obvious it was another bomb on board just like the last Russian plane.
What are YOU talking about? When is the most recent plane accident involving a Russian airplane with a bomb on board
Last fall.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrojet_Flight_9268
Anonymous
05/19/2016 06:31
Subject: Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:Aside from TWA 800 and China Air 611, I can't think of any flights that simply disintegrated in mid-air without nefarious factors involved (I don't believe the TWA 800 conspiracy theories). First guess would be a bomb on board.
I suppose the sort of good news is that unlike MH370, this is a much smaller search area and a much shallower body of water, so they'll certainly find it.
TWA 800 was a bomb too.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 06:21
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:Some of you people are making flat out stupid remarks and not even knowing what your talking about. Missiles and all. Pretty obvious it was another bomb on board just like the last Russian plane.
What are YOU talking about? When is the most recent plane accident involving a Russian airplane with a bomb on board
Anonymous
05/19/2016 02:11
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Some of you people are making flat out stupid remarks and not even knowing what your talking about. Missiles and all. Pretty obvious it was another bomb on board just like the last Russian plane.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:59
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
https://twitter.com/TheJaneWardell/status/733172125041709056
Greek officials investigating reports from Greek island residents that they saw a ball of fire in the sky
Greek officials investigating reports from Greek island residents that they saw a ball of fire in the sky
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:40
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Nationalities on board:
15 French
30 Egyptian
1 British
1 Belgian
2 Iraqis
1 Kuwaiti
1 Saudi
1 Sudanese
1 Chadians
1Portuguese
1 Algerian
1 CAD
Search & Rescue taking place 40-50 miles off Egyptian shore.
NYT reporting on the lost MS804, "They did not radio for help or lose altitude. They just vanished.
15 French
30 Egyptian
1 British
1 Belgian
2 Iraqis
1 Kuwaiti
1 Saudi
1 Sudanese
1 Chadians
1Portuguese
1 Algerian
1 CAD
Search & Rescue taking place 40-50 miles off Egyptian shore.
NYT reporting on the lost MS804, "They did not radio for help or lose altitude. They just vanished.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:35
Subject: Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:I pray the riders and crew make it home alive and will be okay. When 2 people pray together. . .
+1
Already asked St Christopher for intercession.
This is so horrible.
I absolutely hate that we live in a world where whenever something tragic happens my first thought is terrorism.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:32
Subject: Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
I pray the riders and crew make it home alive and will be okay. When 2 people pray together. . .
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:19
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Here is a comment from a pilot on reddit's livethread about the plane crash. I think its some good insight.
I'm an A319/A320 First Officer.
Loss of radar contact is a rather unusual situation with regards to what may sadly turn out to be an accident.
There are basically two kinds of radar with regards to Aviation, primary and secondary. Primary is what you think of when you think of radar - a dot on a screen. Primary radar effectively bounces waves off the aircraft and times their return to calculate a position.
Secondary radar gives altitude, heading, call sign, altitude change trends, a kind of an ID called a squawk code, aircraft type. This works using a piece of equipment called a mode S transponder that pings this information live from the aircraft to SSR interrogations sent to the aircraft from the ground.
Ideally, there has just been some kind of transponder and comms failure. In this situation, being on an IFR flight plan, the aircraft should continue via its filed flight plan and then commence the approach at the destination at the time nominated on the flight plan. Not terribly uncommon, frequently trained for.
The alternative of the aircraft dropping off primary radar is sadly more serious and indicative of an accident.
Should the worst have happened it would be prudent not to get caught up in the usual media ill-informed hysteria and not jump to conclusions like terrorism. Most of my posts on here are about flying because the public in general have a lot of misconceptions with regards to aviation, not helped by an ill-informed media often pandering outright lies, and I like to set the record straight. For those interested in the facts of what may have happened to this aircraft, /r/flying will be a better reference for informed, neutral comment and debate than all other subreddits. The Aviation Herald is also a great resource.
I'm an A319/A320 First Officer.
Loss of radar contact is a rather unusual situation with regards to what may sadly turn out to be an accident.
There are basically two kinds of radar with regards to Aviation, primary and secondary. Primary is what you think of when you think of radar - a dot on a screen. Primary radar effectively bounces waves off the aircraft and times their return to calculate a position.
Secondary radar gives altitude, heading, call sign, altitude change trends, a kind of an ID called a squawk code, aircraft type. This works using a piece of equipment called a mode S transponder that pings this information live from the aircraft to SSR interrogations sent to the aircraft from the ground.
Ideally, there has just been some kind of transponder and comms failure. In this situation, being on an IFR flight plan, the aircraft should continue via its filed flight plan and then commence the approach at the destination at the time nominated on the flight plan. Not terribly uncommon, frequently trained for.
The alternative of the aircraft dropping off primary radar is sadly more serious and indicative of an accident.
Should the worst have happened it would be prudent not to get caught up in the usual media ill-informed hysteria and not jump to conclusions like terrorism. Most of my posts on here are about flying because the public in general have a lot of misconceptions with regards to aviation, not helped by an ill-informed media often pandering outright lies, and I like to set the record straight. For those interested in the facts of what may have happened to this aircraft, /r/flying will be a better reference for informed, neutral comment and debate than all other subreddits. The Aviation Herald is also a great resource.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:15
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
https://twitter.com/EGYPTAIR/status/733157304644861952
They are saying they are at the site for rescue ... maybe good news? Maybe the plane had to make a hard water landing?
They are saying they are at the site for rescue ... maybe good news? Maybe the plane had to make a hard water landing?
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:13
Subject: Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm freaking out. I think my husband's business partner may have been on that plane. I can't get in touch with anyone in Cairo. I think the phone lines are jammed, everyone calling everyone else.
Oh no. I hope this isn't his flight.
+1
This might be helpful ---
For realatives of MS804 egypt air is offering toll-free numbers for passengers' relatives as follows:
080077770000 from any landline in Egypt.
+202 25989320 from any mobile phone or from outside Egypt.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:10
Subject: Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:I'm freaking out. I think my husband's business partner may have been on that plane. I can't get in touch with anyone in Cairo. I think the phone lines are jammed, everyone calling everyone else.
Oh no. I hope this isn't his flight.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:08
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:Would a surface to air missile reach 37,000 ft?
They can reach 15 miles, that is 79200 feet.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:06
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Anonymous wrote:Would a surface to air missile reach 37,000 ft?
My Google searches showed long range missiles would reach that height easily.
Anonymous
05/19/2016 01:02
Subject: Re:Egypt Air Flight has disappeared from radar
Would a surface to air missile reach 37,000 ft?