I'm white and would have absolutely no problem sending my kid to a majority AA well ranked school. I didn't even look at race when choosing, just test scores. I'm in about a 50% asian school and that's perfectly fine for us too.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

What? You mean Asian flight?

whites and asians are interchangeable silly :-p its all about ses anyway I mean upper income blacks do the same thing

But aren't the Asians fleeing from the whites in cases of AAP and TJ?

The evidence seems to show that whites are fleeing from Asians in the case of TJ.

umm no

White applications have gone down as the Asian %age has gone up. White flight from Asians.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

What? You mean Asian flight?

whites and asians are interchangeable silly :-p its all about ses anyway I mean upper income blacks do the same thing

But aren't the Asians fleeing from the whites in cases of AAP and TJ?

The evidence seems to show that whites are fleeing from Asians in the case of TJ.

umm no

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

You would make more sense if you substituted "poverty flight" or "blight flight." It's not just whites who care about high-quality schools, upper-income AA families don't want to put their children in low-quality schools either.

Not really as whites wouldn't send their kids to majority upper class AA or middle class AA (with no behavior issues) school either

Dumb argument, cause none of those exist in DC

Yes, show us an example of a majority upper class AA or middle class AA (with no behavior issues) school and we'll see if whites are fleeing from it. I'll wait.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

What? You mean Asian flight?

whites and asians are interchangeable silly :-p its all about ses anyway I mean upper income blacks do the same thing

But aren't the Asians fleeing from the whites in cases of AAP and TJ?

The evidence seems to show that whites are fleeing from Asians in the case of TJ.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

What? You mean Asian flight?

whites and asians are interchangeable silly :-p its all about ses anyway I mean upper income blacks do the same thing

There are some, but they're rarer than you think. The black-white testing gap persists even as you go up in income. Hence only 1.6% of TJ students [test-in] are AA, and it doesn't say how many of those are second-generation African immigrants. I can't find figures for AAP but they must be comparable. So most AA parents, even high SES, don't have the test-out/AAP option available to them.

If SES explained all of it, PG - the wealthiest AA community in the country - would be doing a lot better.

Things unfortunately run a lot deeper than that.

Here is a link to the GAO report on which the article is based. http://www.gao.gov/assets/680/676745.pdf

As I read it, the report is saying something pretty similar to what OP suggested. Schools with students that are disproportionately black/Hispanic and low-income do worse on academic achievement measures. People who can afford to avoid schools with low academic achievement measures will avoid them. The people who can afford to avoid those schools are more often white. As a result, segregation increases because of income disparities. Various school districts have tried different tactics to encourage more racial diversity at schools, by giving extra money and better facilities to the schools that are low-income and black/Hispanic. But even those extra resources do not lead to much more diversity.

To me, it seems there are essentially two potential solutions:

1. Decide as a society that we value integration/diversity more highly than academic success. If maximizing integration is the goal, then schools and governments will essentially need to force students to integrate by race and income. This means upper and middle class students will somehow be forced into schools that are academically weaker, all in the name of increased diversity. The hope, of course, is that in more integrated/diverse schools, the academic success of wealthier/whiter students will somehow encourage the other students to academic improvement, but I have not seen much evidence that approach works.

2. Decide as a society that we value academic success for each student more highly than integration/diversity. This means we focus on lifting the academic achievement of each student, regardless of the impact on integration/diversity. That likely means we have fairly segregated schools in the short term, as we abandon efforts at diversity. It means lots of education money gets thrown at increasing the academic performance of black/Hispanic and low-income students. Hopefully, in the long term, it means we succeed in raising the academic performance of the black/Hispanic and low-income groups, so that integration naturally follows. (Speaking personally, I suspect that this approach would lead to more racial integration over time, but would never lead to much income integration because the wealthy will always have more money to spend on things that lead to improved academic performance.)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

You would make more sense if you substituted "poverty flight" or "blight flight." It's not just whites who care about high-quality schools, upper-income AA families don't want to put their children in low-quality schools either.

Not really as whites wouldn't send their kids to majority upper class AA or middle class AA (with no behavior issues) school either

Dumb argument, cause none of those exist in DC

Anonymous wrote:and yeah other prior poster I totally agree

I am assuming some of the black posters who call everyone racist don't realize anyone with means is doing the same thing

what you're truly saying is that no one wants to go to school with poor blacks.

whoever figures out why gets a Nobel Prize.

Visited Exeter Academy once and got an idea why some kids excel or should excel. Fabulous school.

Then you should also have some idea of the difference between an 18th century, WASP, 50K per year private school and DCPS. Sheesh.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

What? You mean Asian flight?

whites and asians are interchangeable silly :-p its all about ses anyway I mean upper income blacks do the same thing

But aren't the Asians fleeing from the whites in cases of AAP and TJ?

Not really as whites wouldn't send their kids to majority upper class AA or middle class AA (with no behavior issues) school either

Yeah, well. Some of us do.

Although I have to say, we're happier in the school now with the majority of lower SES AA families than we were in the school with the affluent ones. The affluent ones wanted nothing to do with us. And their kids were mean.

show me a school like that with high test scores.....

all joshing aside I agree prior poster

everyone wants what is best for their kids

the question is what to do with

the ghetto blacks in the cities
the white hicks in rural areas

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

You would make more sense if you substituted "poverty flight" or "blight flight." It's not just whites who care about high-quality schools, upper-income AA families don't want to put their children in low-quality schools either.

And it's not just upper income AAs either - I am a barely middle class AA parent who wants high quality education for my kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising to anyone

Anyone with means is going to do what is best for their children aka living in the best school district possible away from the poors/ESOLS/blacks/hispanics

DC Charter system is white flight
Choice in Arlington is white flight
AAP in Fairfax is white flight
Magnets in MoCo is white flight

See a pattern

You would make more sense if you substituted "poverty flight" or "blight flight." It's not just whites who care about high-quality schools, upper-income AA families don't want to put their children in low-quality schools either.

Not really as whites wouldn't send their kids to majority upper class AA or middle class AA (with no behavior issues) school either