Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike you apparently, I trust my teens to not get in such situations.

But yes, if your teen's a junkie, teach them to recognize an overdose.

You realize YOUR kid doesn't have to be a junkie in order to benefit from knowing how to identify overdose / alcohol poisoning? THe OP is suggesting there is always reason to teach them how to recognize this in others. So, you know when your good kid is the only sober one at a party and someone passes out and starts vomiting, at least they will know what to do to save a life, rather than leaving that person to die.

Aside from that, even good kids sometimes make mistakes. I have a friend who got alcohol poisoning the very first time she drank, which also was after she became of age. Ended up in hospital for a week. She had no idea how much alcohol she could or couldn't handle and was just "going with the flow" when people were buying rounds. She didn't mean to almost end up dead, but there it is.

Oh, because well adjusted, normal kids shoot heroin?

I'm sorry, but this entire thread is ridicules.

My kids don't have friends who use heroin. They don't go to shooting galleries where they are surrounded by dying addicts. We live in a nice, suburban community with an active police force and good neighbors.

This is very personal to me. My brother was a heroin addict for 15 years, until he died at age 32. I know junkies. The best thing to do is stop wasting money of treatment, or on shit like that. The only treatment for heroin addiction is death, and the only way to prevent heroin addiction is staying as far away from addicts as possible. If a kid is friends with an addict, they are done. Junkies don't hang with people who don't use, they only hang out with people who will help them get their true love, heroin, its all that will ever matter to them.

So yes, I won't be glorifying heroin and telling my kids, 'Don't worry, if you ever shoot too much heroin into your veins you can just use Norcan to save yourself!" No, my talk on heroin was simple: "If you ever hang out with anyone who uses any sort of opiod, or use yourself, you will be immidiately dead to me and your father. Heroin is a death sentence, and heroin addicts can never be trusted. We will ensure you never see another dime from us again." Maybe I'm harsh, but its the truth and you better get on it unless you want a bunch of dead kiddos lining the damn street.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unlike you apparently, I trust my teens to not get in such situations.

But yes, if your teen's a junkie, teach them to recognize an overdose.

You realize YOUR kid doesn't have to be a junkie in order to benefit from knowing how to identify overdose / alcohol poisoning? THe OP is suggesting there is always reason to teach them how to recognize this in others. So, you know when your good kid is the only sober one at a party and someone passes out and starts vomiting, at least they will know what to do to save a life, rather than leaving that person to die.

Aside from that, even good kids sometimes make mistakes. I have a friend who got alcohol poisoning the very first time she drank, which also was after she became of age. Ended up in hospital for a week. She had no idea how much alcohol she could or couldn't handle and was just "going with the flow" when people were buying rounds. She didn't mean to almost end up dead, but there it is.

Oh, because well adjusted, normal kids shoot heroin?

I'm sorry, but this entire thread is ridicules.

My kids don't have friends who use heroin. They don't go to shooting galleries where they are surrounded by dying addicts. We live in a nice, suburban community with an active police force and good neighbors.

This is very personal to me. My brother was a heroin addict for 15 years, until he died at age 32. I know junkies. The best thing to do is stop wasting money of treatment, or on shit like that. The only treatment for heroin addiction is death, and the only way to prevent heroin addiction is staying as far away from addicts as possible. If a kid is friends with an addict, they are done. Junkies don't hang with people who don't use, they only hang out with people who will help them get their true love, heroin, its all that will ever matter to them.

So yes, I won't be glorifying heroin and telling my kids, 'Don't worry, if you ever shoot too much heroin into your veins you can just use Norcan to save yourself!" No, my talk on heroin was simple: "If you ever hang out with anyone who uses any sort of opiod, or use yourself, you will be immidiately dead to me and your father. Heroin is a death sentence, and heroin addicts can never be trusted. We will ensure you never see another dime from us again." Maybe I'm harsh, but its the truth and you better get on it unless you want a bunch of dead kiddos lining the damn street.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in a wealthy, lovely suburb of New York where the cops were, and still are, our friends. Over a dozen of the kids who were in high school have already died of overdoses. All from wonderful, wealthy and educated families.

Yes.

I am a physician. When I was in training, the high end real estate was waterfront property relatively near the hospital, so on-call docs could get to the ICUs and surgical suites quickly and not have to sleep in. It was a gated community.

Their kids were the ones coming through the ED with substance overdoses.

Anonymous wrote:It makes me sick to think that a parent could be so ignorant she would treat her child as a disposable to be discarded on the street. Every child deserves a parent in his corner.

Absolutely. And if your child parrots this philosophy to friends, whether out of pride or fear or frustration, it only takes one enemy at a party to take that child away from you. Kids will do nasty shit to each other. You're really going to have a one-strike, reasons-be-damned policy? And you consider yourself a good parent?