Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 09:05     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:

Parents need to stand up and basically tell this assholes that have taken over youth soccer to cut the crap. Parents had a lot more say in this area back in the 80s where everyone wasn't so afraid that if they spoke up their kids would be blackballed.

No way in hell would our team have driven 4 hours back and forth for a single regular season game in VA Beach. Parents and our coach would have raised hell. People are washcloths nowadays.

I played on a National Championship winning travel team---we had Jill Ellis and Mia Hamm on my and my siblings teams. Other siblings played on top boys teams.

Really, VA Beach for a single, non-competitive sucky regular season game??? Kids are really getting a lot out of sitting in I-95 traffic for 8 hours.

Don't give me this shit about lifestyle choices either. The kid would be better off working with a top private trainer that day or playing in one of the many pick up street soccer games in the area than sitting in car 90% of the day.

Leagues need to sort their shit out.


First, name the league that forces you to drive to VA Beach.

Second, do not play for a team that plays in that league. Problem solved.

If you want to stay within the DMV then WAGS, ODSL and NCSL are the leagues for you. If those leagues still require to much "travel" for "travel soccer" for your tastes just play rec.

Your outrage is rather silly when there are lots of options available for you.



1. CCL
2. In order to be on the "top" team in some clubs, you are in CCL. If you aren't on the top team, you don't get the same opportunities. You probably won't get the top level coach, you definitely won't be seen by scouts, you may not hear of other trainings outside of your club, etc.


The point is there are top level players that would be much better served by more local competition than they would be sitting in a car for 8 hours on a Saturday to either win or lose by a large margin. And it's happening regularly.

I have 4 travel soccer players from u-17 to u-9. I don't mind the "travel" part of it at all. If it's for good soccer, good experiences, good training, etc. Unfortunately, it's often not the case.


Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 09:00     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:

It's 'than'. Less travel soccer, more schoolwork for you.


Did you just attempt to correct grammar incorrectly? It's an if/then statement: IF that is your biggest problem, THEN travel soccer is not for you.




Hahaha. I can not stop laughing. Thank you for making my day.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 08:58     Subject: Re:Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Though if it's your local/neighborhood travel club to move to a different club to avoid long drives is a moot point if now you are having to drive longer and farther in rush hour traffic 3 nights per week for practices.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 08:56     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.


Parents need to stand up and basically tell this assholes that have taken over youth soccer to cut the crap. Parents had a lot more say in this area back in the 80s where everyone wasn't so afraid that if they spoke up their kids would be blackballed.

No way in hell would our team have driven 4 hours back and forth for a single regular season game in VA Beach. Parents and our coach would have raised hell. People are washcloths nowadays.

I played on a National Championship winning travel team---we had Jill Ellis and Mia Hamm on my and my siblings teams. Other siblings played on top boys teams.

Really, VA Beach for a single, non-competitive sucky regular season game??? Kids are really getting a lot out of sitting in I-95 traffic for 8 hours.

Don't give me this shit about lifestyle choices either. The kid would be better off working with a top private trainer that day or playing in one of the many pick up street soccer games in the area than sitting in car 90% of the day.

Leagues need to sort their shit out.


First, name the league that forces you to drive to VA Beach.

Second, do not play for a team that plays in that league. Problem solved.

If you want to stay within the DMV then WAGS, ODSL and NCSL are the leagues for you. If those leagues still require to much "travel" for "travel soccer" for your tastes just play rec.

Your outrage is rather silly when there are lots of options available for you.


Yea. My bad. Meant for CCL thread. CCL has VA Beach teams.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 08:54     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.


Parents need to stand up and basically tell this assholes that have taken over youth soccer to cut the crap. Parents had a lot more say in this area back in the 80s where everyone wasn't so afraid that if they spoke up their kids would be blackballed.

No way in hell would our team have driven 4 hours back and forth for a single regular season game in VA Beach. Parents and our coach would have raised hell. People are washcloths nowadays.

I played on a National Championship winning travel team---we had Jill Ellis and Mia Hamm on my and my siblings teams. Other siblings played on top boys teams.

Really, VA Beach for a single, non-competitive sucky regular season game??? Kids are really getting a lot out of sitting in I-95 traffic for 8 hours.

Don't give me this shit about lifestyle choices either. The kid would be better off working with a top private trainer that day or playing in one of the many pick up street soccer games in the area than sitting in car 90% of the day.

Leagues need to sort their shit out.


First, name the league that forces you to drive to VA Beach.

Second, do not play for a team that plays in that league. Problem solved.

If you want to stay within the DMV then WAGS, ODSL and NCSL are the leagues for you. If those leagues still require to much "travel" for "travel soccer" for your tastes just play rec.

Your outrage is rather silly when there are lots of options available for you.
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2016 08:10     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.


Parents need to stand up and basically tell this assholes that have taken over youth soccer to cut the crap. Parents had a lot more say in this area back in the 80s where everyone wasn't so afraid that if they spoke up their kids would be blackballed.

No way in hell would our team have driven 4 hours back and forth for a single regular season game in VA Beach. Parents and our coach would have raised hell. People are washcloths nowadays.

I played on a National Championship winning travel team---we had Jill Ellis and Mia Hamm on my and my siblings teams. Other siblings played on top boys teams.

Really, VA Beach for a single, non-competitive sucky regular season game??? Kids are really getting a lot out of sitting in I-95 traffic for 8 hours.

Don't give me this shit about lifestyle choices either. The kid would be better off working with a top private trainer that day or playing in one of the many pick up street soccer games in the area than sitting in car 90% of the day.

Leagues need to sort their shit out.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 23:27     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.


It's 'than'. Less travel soccer, more schoolwork for you.


Did you just attempt to correct grammar incorrectly? It's an if/then statement: IF that is your biggest problem, THEN travel soccer is not for you.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 23:04     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.


It's 'than'. Less travel soccer, more schoolwork for you.


Thank you for the correction. I now understand how minor things are capable of bothering you so much. I hope you never need to drive more than 30 minutes to any game. Driving all the way out to Winchester you might need to pack a lunch.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 22:48     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.


It's 'than'. Less travel soccer, more schoolwork for you.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 22:28     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.


Play in ODSL or Rec then. But your crying about a game within a metropolitan area is what is ridiculous. Again, if that is your biggest problem then travel soccer just is not for you. Play rec.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 22:18     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.


Or push WAGS not to group teams from Winchester and Maryland, when there's no reason to do so. "If you don't like it, quit" is one of the most ridiculous responses to a problem that doesn't need to exist for anyone below the top levels of a given age group.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 22:04     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:It would be great to have it arranged more regionally. This Spring so far we have had to drive to Frederick, Columbia and Stafford. God forbid we should play a team in Arlington, Montgomery County, DC or even Loudoun or Prince William County. We sure haven't so far! We're on the C team so its kind of ridiculous.


My DD's team plAyed another MoCo team and we had to go to some place called Murtagh in Howard Coubty or wherever (it was far!) because somehow they didn't have a home field available to them in all of Gaithersburg or anywhere in MoCo or anywhere close by. So, don't get your hopes up.

WAGS has been terrible for years.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 22:04     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.


Oh just stop, it isn't four hours one way. Just pull your kid out of soccer if it bothers you so much. Jesus, it's called "travel" for a reason. Play rec so your life isn't turned all upside down over a trip to Winchester.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 21:57     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.


You can make it to St Mary's, Columbia, Winchester, Fredericksburg, etc from McLean/Vienna/Arlington in 45 minutes? Because NCSL/ODSL habitually puts those team together in the U9/U10 age groups.
Anonymous
Post 04/26/2016 21:43     Subject: Soccer: WAGS and NCSL to merge this Fall

Anonymous wrote:^^ such as? I think many families are having to travel great distances hence the multiple complaints.


WAGS, ODSL, NCSL. All are local leagues and do not require travel further than about 45 minutes.