Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 13:49     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's pretty funny. Mine had top grades at Holton and the college counselor wanted her to go to "Villa NoWhere"...i.e. Villonova. She ended up at top Ivy. Your kid must be a legacy or you must give a lot of money to Holton.


Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED. She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all. As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP. She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton.


Interesting. I think that college counselors at independent schools have a policy of setting very low expectations at the first meeting with parents --- in our case the first kid, who ended up at an Ivy, was being sold on a small third rate college in Florida, and the second kid, who ended up in a top ten school, was asked to look at a non-flagship Southern state school. I think that they do this to deflect blame in case of mishaps, but also to force parents and kids to focus on safeties and match schools. It is very easy to get caught up thinking about far reaches and not enough time planning out the full list. In my experience, once they see that a family has been sufficiently stunned, they become much more helpful and on-point.


This was our experience, except that we simply ignored their advice. Kids were accepted at schools the counselors said would be impossible. By the third time around it was just so tiresome to play this game. Why do they assume that parents are completely clueless and want to force their kids to apply to schools where they'd be unhappy? Wouldn't it be more efficient to try to work cooperatively with parents?


We came with a very definite list and had already done a lot of research because my daughter has specific talents and passions. She's not the STEM girl that a lot of Holton girls are and her choice of major is somewhat unique. We already had some safeties on the list and have visited them so maybe they felt like we were being middle of the road and there was no need to reset our expectations. Who knows. I don't expect much but it was good to get positive feedback.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 13:39     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Anonymous wrote:That's pretty funny. Mine had top grades at Holton and the college counselor wanted her to go to "Villa NoWhere"...i.e. Villonova. She ended up at top Ivy. Your kid must be a legacy or you must give a lot of money to Holton.


Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED. She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all. As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP. She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton.


Ha Ha! Definitely NOT a legacy or a big donor, in fact we didn't donate at all the past two years because we don't have a lot of extra money after tuition. Interesting that you would think that. I guess they really just believe in my daughter.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 13:19     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That's pretty funny. Mine had top grades at Holton and the college counselor wanted her to go to "Villa NoWhere"...i.e. Villonova. She ended up at top Ivy. Your kid must be a legacy or you must give a lot of money to Holton.


Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED. She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all. As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP. She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton.


Interesting. I think that college counselors at independent schools have a policy of setting very low expectations at the first meeting with parents --- in our case the first kid, who ended up at an Ivy, was being sold on a small third rate college in Florida, and the second kid, who ended up in a top ten school, was asked to look at a non-flagship Southern state school. I think that they do this to deflect blame in case of mishaps, but also to force parents and kids to focus on safeties and match schools. It is very easy to get caught up thinking about far reaches and not enough time planning out the full list. In my experience, once they see that a family has been sufficiently stunned, they become much more helpful and on-point.


This was our experience, except that we simply ignored their advice. Kids were accepted at schools the counselors said would be impossible. By the third time around it was just so tiresome to play this game. Why do they assume that parents are completely clueless and want to force their kids to apply to schools where they'd be unhappy? Wouldn't it be more efficient to try to work cooperatively with parents?
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 12:16     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Anonymous wrote:That's pretty funny. Mine had top grades at Holton and the college counselor wanted her to go to "Villa NoWhere"...i.e. Villonova. She ended up at top Ivy. Your kid must be a legacy or you must give a lot of money to Holton.


Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED. She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all. As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP. She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton.


Interesting. I think that college counselors at independent schools have a policy of setting very low expectations at the first meeting with parents --- in our case the first kid, who ended up at an Ivy, was being sold on a small third rate college in Florida, and the second kid, who ended up in a top ten school, was asked to look at a non-flagship Southern state school. I think that they do this to deflect blame in case of mishaps, but also to force parents and kids to focus on safeties and match schools. It is very easy to get caught up thinking about far reaches and not enough time planning out the full list. In my experience, once they see that a family has been sufficiently stunned, they become much more helpful and on-point.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 10:29     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
That's pretty funny. Mine had top grades at Holton and the college counselor wanted her to go to "Villa NoWhere"...i.e. Villonova. She ended up at top Ivy. Your kid must be a legacy or you must give a lot of money to Holton.


Anonymous wrote:My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED. She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all. As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP. She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 10:03     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
You can always transfer to a better University.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 09:46     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
100+
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 08:16     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
My daughter is a B+ student at Holton with good scores and her counselor (supported by Naviance) seems to indicate she could get into a lot of great places, especially if she applies ED. She's looking at places like Bowdoin, Kenyon, Grinnell (Bowdoin would have to be ED) and counselor says she has a good shot at all. As people have said, there is a wide range of "B" but she has mostly A- or B+ in her classes and several honors/AP. She's not interested in Ivy League or most of the top schools but I'm confident she will get into several good schools given her background and the reputation of Holton.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 07:52     Subject: Re:Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
"Yes, I am the parent to a C student in high school at a top private. DS was admitted many years ago as a younger sibling. Smart kid but he has difficulty producing the amount of writing required by the school, even in science courses. I'm hoping that it will get easier as he matures. The C's definitely will impact his college choices but DS is happy and in the long-term learning to be a proficient and quick writer should be an asset. "

I think my younger sibling DC is going to have problems producing the volume of writing required in older sibling's high school. If you had it to do over again, would you have applied to other high schools for the younger sib? If so, any idea where would have been a better fit?
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 07:28     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
I was answering with a straight B student in mind -- a 3.0 - 3.2. A 3.4 is a B+ student, who would have more options with good scores.
Anonymous
Post 04/18/2016 06:41     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Anonymous wrote:You might have a shot at Michigan, Wisconsin, Pittsburgh, Temple, Haverford, Bryn Mawr, Wellesly, Maryland, GW, AU, Colby, Bowdoin.

Michigan accepts lots of Sidwell kids with B averages.

NYU is a possibility. Fordham, Rutgers,


Some even super selectives might accept depending on circumstances. UVA, Barnard, Weslyan


Painting with too broad a brush here. Again, all B students aren't the same, but unless you're hooked or have As in Phys 2 and BC Calc, not Haverford, Wellesley, Bowdoin or Wesleyan.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 23:26     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Our independent girls school sends B- students to Mary Washington, IU, Elon, St Johns and Boston College.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 23:02     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
B is a big category. Do you mean a student with a 3.0 average. Or a student who has a 3.4 average. From a big 3 many 3.4 students have near perfect SAT scores and As in a couple of subjects every year, which means they are really good in certain subjects. In my kids class This type of student has a chance at a top 20 college and will get in to most lower ranked schools. They will also get in to UVA or UMCP. The 3.0 students get into places like UMCP, UMBC, Colgate, Trinity, Lafayette, Case Western, University of Miami, etc.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 20:35     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
Anonymous wrote:The B kids at our school go to Michigan, Wisconsin, Tulane, Skidmore, Oberlin, Kenyon, Colby, Bates, NYU, Smith, Mount Holyoke, Trinity, Dickinson -- schools like that.
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Impressive!! Big 3?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 20:30     Subject: Where did the B students at the top independent schools end up going to college.
The B kids at our school go to Michigan, Wisconsin, Tulane, Skidmore, Oberlin, Kenyon, Colby, Bates, NYU, Smith, Mount Holyoke, Trinity, Dickinson -- schools like that.