Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 11:31     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard, in a second, no question. A single vocational major won't be assured to define, nor economically protect, your DC. And UCB might open a few job doors, but Harvard will open many more.


This so called "Vocational Major" produced dozens of billionaires and thousands of multi-millionaires in relatively short period of time. Quants are taking over the "Wall Street" and patent law is dominating the top firms! You should be careful about dismissing this "vocation".


Quants blew up economy with synthetic CDO etc, another crisis and Wall Street will have regulators all over them. Most of the 'value' of this tech is in very pedestrian technology, the money is being made in a potential VC bubble, and maybe some real viable businesses, but most will implode b/c not sustainable. people will not pay the real costs for things like instacart or maybe even uber if they ever have to carry legal wages and insurance.

So going to Harverd, which had a better business school will give OP kid best chance in the industry.

UCs in general have accepting more and more students and have had real funding issues.

Just b/c Berkeley is in California, it is not Stanford.

And I love Berkeley but Harvard will give your kid lots of options esp if any chance would switch fields.


Go to Berkeley. Harvard Business school is the source of all evil in the US.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 11:25     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:Harvard, in a second, no question. A single vocational major won't be assured to define, nor economically protect, your DC. And UCB might open a few job doors, but Harvard will open many more.

I completely agree with above. Also, people change their minds about majors often.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 11:04     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
OP here. The major would be EECS at Berkeley which is declared from the first semester. Looks like EECS with Stat minor.

It seems Berkeley grads go on to SV and Harvard grads go on to wall Street. Do Harvard CS grads go on to work in SV as well?
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 03:37     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:Is comp sci an impacted major at Cal? And, if so, is DC guaranteed access to it? If CS doesn't work out for whatever reason, what's plan b? And is the "plan b" major impacted?


This is the relevant post. All the other ones are just chasing rankings. You need to consider whether you/your DC will be able to keep up the GPA to do CS at all at Berkeley, whether you/they will be able to get into classes and graduate on time etc. These are not considerations at all for Harvard.

I would do Harvard for undergrad. Grad, different animal.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 03:04     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Harvard, in a second, no question. A single vocational major won't be assured to define, nor economically protect, your DC. And UCB might open a few job doors, but Harvard will open many more.


This so called "Vocational Major" produced dozens of billionaires and thousands of multi-millionaires in relatively short period of time. Quants are taking over the "Wall Street" and patent law is dominating the top firms! You should be careful about dismissing this "vocation".


Quants blew up economy with synthetic CDO etc, another crisis and Wall Street will have regulators all over them. Most of the 'value' of this tech is in very pedestrian technology, the money is being made in a potential VC bubble, and maybe some real viable businesses, but most will implode b/c not sustainable. people will not pay the real costs for things like instacart or maybe even uber if they ever have to carry legal wages and insurance.

So going to Harverd, which had a better business school will give OP kid best chance in the industry.

UCs in general have accepting more and more students and have had real funding issues.

Just b/c Berkeley is in California, it is not Stanford.

And I love Berkeley but Harvard will give your kid lots of options esp if any chance would switch fields.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 01:49     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:Harvard, in a second, no question. A single vocational major won't be assured to define, nor economically protect, your DC. And UCB might open a few job doors, but Harvard will open many more.


This so called "Vocational Major" produced dozens of billionaires and thousands of multi-millionaires in relatively short period of time. Quants are taking over the "Wall Street" and patent law is dominating the top firms! You should be careful about dismissing this "vocation".
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 01:31     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Do these rankings apply to undergrad? Rankings in particular fields often apply to the graduate level.
Anonymous
Post 04/17/2016 00:14     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:Harvard, in a second, no question. A single vocational major won't be assured to define, nor economically protect, your DC. And UCB might open a few job doors, but Harvard will open many more.


How so?

Harvard is ranked 18. Berkeley is ranked 1.

If competing for software engineering jobs, I'd think both schools would have same opportunity. Berkeley would surely have a solid cs peer group though.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 23:22     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 23:12     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Harvard, in a second, no question. A single vocational major won't be assured to define, nor economically protect, your DC. And UCB might open a few job doors, but Harvard will open many more.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 18:06     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Berkeley vs. MIT vs. CMU is much more interesting comparison.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 18:03     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
My uncle is a prof at MIT; he used to take me out to lunch when I was at Harvard, and he and his grad students (an ever present bevy who were always hanging out when I went by his office/lab) used to scoff at the idea of anyone going to "the little red schoolhouse across the river" for Comp Sci, or any other Sci (I was an English major, so they felt free to do this in front of me). Nobody who can get into MIT does Comp Sci at Harvard, and I imagine Berkeley is also stronger than Harvard for this.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 17:57     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Seriously if you have offers from both schools you are insane not to go to Harvard.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 16:58     Subject: Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Anonymous wrote:Wow, no vote for Harvard.

It is not known for it's strong science programs. Just because someone is accepted to an Ivy, doesn't mean it's the best choice.
Anonymous
Post 04/16/2016 16:49     Subject: Re:Berkeley or Harvard for Computer Science
Harvard has no reputation at all for cs. Carnegie Mellon is stronger for example and it's not an ivy.