Anonymous
Post 04/09/2016 22:00     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
OP here. Got a call yesterday and now I have 4 embryos that made it to day 3. One was a little late on day 2 but yesterday made it to day 3. I have two grade 2 and two grade 3.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2016 13:02     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Good luck OP! Where are you doing genetic testing?
There have been other posts that if you only have a couple of embryos, the Foundation for Embryo Competence (?) may charge you less.
And at 35 you're much more likely to have a good one in the batch
(see this link: http://reprogenetics.com/array-cgh-testing-and-embryo-prognosis/)


Those charts are really interesting! I think I'm having some trouble jiving some of the numbers with what I was told by FEC when I had my consult with them. The text says "The chart pictured to the left helps to determine, on average, the percentage of normal embryos (percentage, bold) retrieved for patients given their maternal age and the total number of embryos retrieved." And then for all the egg donor categories and some of the lower age group categories, the bold number is 100% or in the high 90s. Is the bold number the percentage of cases where there is at least one normal embryo within the batch? Not that 90-100% of the embryos tested are normal? If it's the latter, those numbers seem way too high.

FEC told me at my age (35) roughly a third of the tested embryos would be abnormal (and this is exactly what my results showed). Similarly, Advanced Fertility Center of Chicago has a chart (on this page: http://www.advancedfertility.com/age-eggs-chromosomes.htm) showing percent of abnormal embryos by patient's age, which shows even on the low end of the age range you're looking at about 25% abnormal.

Can someone clarify? I feel like a dunce.


something is wrong with that table. At least in its current form. Ivigen told me that at ~40, only 25% of embryos can expected to be normal.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2016 12:35     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Anonymous wrote:Good luck OP! Where are you doing genetic testing?
There have been other posts that if you only have a couple of embryos, the Foundation for Embryo Competence (?) may charge you less.
And at 35 you're much more likely to have a good one in the batch
(see this link: http://reprogenetics.com/array-cgh-testing-and-embryo-prognosis/)


Those charts are really interesting! I think I'm having some trouble jiving some of the numbers with what I was told by FEC when I had my consult with them. The text says "The chart pictured to the left helps to determine, on average, the percentage of normal embryos (percentage, bold) retrieved for patients given their maternal age and the total number of embryos retrieved." And then for all the egg donor categories and some of the lower age group categories, the bold number is 100% or in the high 90s. Is the bold number the percentage of cases where there is at least one normal embryo within the batch? Not that 90-100% of the embryos tested are normal? If it's the latter, those numbers seem way too high.

FEC told me at my age (35) roughly a third of the tested embryos would be abnormal (and this is exactly what my results showed). Similarly, Advanced Fertility Center of Chicago has a chart (on this page: http://www.advancedfertility.com/age-eggs-chromosomes.htm) showing percent of abnormal embryos by patient's age, which shows even on the low end of the age range you're looking at about 25% abnormal.

Can someone clarify? I feel like a dunce.
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2016 12:11     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Rooting for you OP! I have a friend who did all OOP and only got two eggs and one of those ended up being her daughter! It is tough and scary and I wouldn't wish IF on anyone!
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2016 11:54     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Good luck OP! Where are you doing genetic testing?
There have been other posts that if you only have a couple of embryos, the Foundation for Embryo Competence (?) may charge you less.
And at 35 you're much more likely to have a good one in the batch
(see this link: http://reprogenetics.com/array-cgh-testing-and-embryo-prognosis/)
Anonymous
Post 04/07/2016 11:06     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
OP here. Thank you all for the kind words. Today is day 2 and 3 fertilized.
Anonymous
Post 04/06/2016 11:29     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
That is a long, and incredibly difficult path OP. I will cross my fingers for you that this cycle is the magic one.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 23:24     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the support ladies!
I'm doing PGS this time, so no fresh transfer, fingers crossed for at least one make it to freeze.
PP, I'm devastated because I've been dealing with infertility for the last five years. I've had three very painful mc, five iuis OOP and two ivfs OOP. I literally have no more money, this is my last chance. No donor egg, no adoption... Every last cent (and hope) is going towards PGD.


I'm pulling for you, OP! Please keep us updated if you can. I'm the PP with two frozen embryos, and while I'm not in the exact same spot (also 35, but only (ha) three years TTC and no miscarriages), I feel you: I don't know what the hell I'm going to do if neither of these works.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 23:11     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Just want to say Good Luck to you, OP.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 23:06     Subject: Re:10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
OP here. Thanks for the support ladies!
I'm doing PGS this time, so no fresh transfer, fingers crossed for at least one make it to freeze.
PP, I'm devastated because I've been dealing with infertility for the last five years. I've had three very painful mc, five iuis OOP and two ivfs OOP. I literally have no more money, this is my last chance. No donor egg, no adoption... Every last cent (and hope) is going towards PGD.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 21:05     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Is a fresh transfer not a possibility? I had similar retrieval numbers during my first cycle (age 36/37). I ended up with 3 making it to day 5 when I transferred 1. The other 2 didn't make it to freezing. That little transferred embryo is now 2.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 20:45     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Quality over quantity.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 17:25     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
It's a bit early to be devastated, have faith in the process, don't overdramatize. It may get worse before it gets better.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 16:52     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Only half being mature is extremely disappointing, but 5 is still a really good number. I'm hopeful for you.
Anonymous
Post 04/05/2016 16:40     Subject: 10 retrieved, 5 mature- devastated
Don't lose hope yet. You only need one. I know people who have gotten pregnant with only one fertilized embryo. I understand the number is less than what you hoped for, but you never know what might happen.