A sunny disposition and a tight ass that looks good in yoga pants is enough for us. Women need to let go of their obsession with magna cum laude and white collar jobs.

Yup!

Women in their 30s aren't old. Jesus.

Anonymous wrote:In our very sexist society, women are still selling looks and fertility on the marriage market. Men are selling their ability to be a provider and to succeed at a career. At 30-35, women are hitting the end of their fertility and their looks are (just a little) starting to slide. Men are just starting to hit their top earning years. Women rule the dating world from 15-30. Men rule the dating world from 35 to death. From 30 to 35, power is about even.

How is this sexist? Women contribute to this just as much as men. If women dropped the need to find a man who will "put a big rock" on her finger and have a big law job, etc. etc. and instead only evaluated men based on looks these dynamics would change. It's female hypergamy for $$$ and status that create this situation. And don't tell me it's because men hold women down from being capable of making a good living. If we looked at the Meg Whitman's of the world, they rarely marry down. Men win, because men are easier to please. A sunny disposition and a tight ass that looks good in yoga pants is enough for us. Women need to let go of their obsession with magna cum laude and white collar jobs.

Anonymous wrote:In our very sexist society, women are still selling looks and fertility on the marriage market. Men are selling their ability to be a provider and to succeed at a career. At 30-35, women are hitting the end of their fertility and their looks are (just a little) starting to slide. Men are just starting to hit their top earning years. Women rule the dating world from 15-30. Men rule the dating world from 35 to death. From 30 to 35, power is about even.

30-35 power is only even if both parties are in that age range.

In our very sexist society, women are still selling looks and fertility on the marriage market. Men are selling their ability to be a provider and to succeed at a career. At 30-35, women are hitting the end of their fertility and their looks are (just a little) starting to slide. Men are just starting to hit their top earning years. Women rule the dating world from 15-30. Men rule the dating world from 35 to death. From 30 to 35, power is about even.

Anonymous wrote:It's all about having babies.

Even if a woman in her late 30s gets pregnant without a problem (does happen), it's the desperation. A mid to late 30-something woman who wants to have kids is a ticking time bomb and every damn guy who comes across her knows it.

It's not fair, but it's reality.

Agree with this.
- woman

Anonymous wrote:I am guess most (if not all) of the posters who say "fertility" are women posters. Most (if not all) of the posters who say "beauty/attractiveness" are men posters.

Man here. I posted about fertility.

I am guess most (if not all) of the posters who say "fertility" are women posters. Most (if not all) of the posters who say "beauty/attractiveness" are men posters.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's because of fertility but I think that perception is changing rapidly due to the recent studies on health risks to babies when fathers are older. The view before was that men can have kids when they're in their 40s but now people are scared of autism, etc. so male and female fertility is evening out.

Nice try. A guy in his 40s is not sweating about autism and other special needs. Yes, it's a slightly higher risk with an older dad. In absolute terms, the risk is still small.

A woman in her 40s is highly unlikely to ever have her own biological baby.

Different stakes entirely and it's not an even playing field.

Anonymous wrote:I think it's because of fertility but I think that perception is changing rapidly due to the recent studies on health risks to babies when fathers are older. The view before was that men can have kids when they're in their 40s but now people are scared of autism, etc. so male and female fertility is evening out.

That doesn't change the perception at all. Women in their 30s will still have trouble conceiving regardless of the age of the man.

I think it's because of fertility but I think that perception is changing rapidly due to the recent studies on health risks to babies when fathers are older. The view before was that men can have kids when they're in their 40s but now people are scared of autism, etc. so male and female fertility is evening out.

It's NOT because older men are more attractive physically than older women. Women have done this to themselves. They choose to value $$$ and status in men more than they value abs and youth. That's the delicious irony of the situation.

It's all about having babies.

Even if a woman in her late 30s gets pregnant without a problem (does happen), it's the desperation. A mid to late 30-something woman who wants to have kids is a ticking time bomb and every damn guy who comes across her knows it.

It's not fair, but it's reality.

Attractiveness.

Because many men in their 30s will happily date a woman in her 20s and plenty of women in their 20s will date them.

i am 36 and find that I usually date women in the 26-29 range.