Anonymous
Post 03/26/2016 00:02     Subject: turning in homework
I am shocked at the vitriol.

I have a gifted kid who is not high achieving because of executive functioning deficits and and he also just does not care sometimes. Or rather, he cares about other things a lot more.

It is really hard to know how to support him because he is in 5th and is already falling through the cracks in some areas. Perfect scores on tests but in a low reading group because he gives short answers on the reading tests.

I am so worried about middle school.

I would pay for an organizational tutor. Letting my kid crash and burn when he simply hasn't learned organizational skills is ridiculous.

Anonymous
Post 03/25/2016 08:27     Subject: Re:turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:


Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son emails it to the teacher and me. He is also supposed to turn it in to the teacher. If the teacher doesn't get it or doesn't see my son during the day, she emails me and I forward it to her. He has an IEP and this is one of his goals.


So enabling him is a helpful strategy?

Who the hell identified THIS "strategy" on his IEP?


What you call enabling is actually scaffolding. If the child can't get from A to B, what do you think would be an acceptasble strategy to get them there?


Scaffolding, dear one, is a way to chunk lessons (context changes) based on skill building. A parent/general educator/special educator doesn't ACT as a safety net if the child fails to reach the next step. If little Jo Jo KNOWS she can rely on Mommy to turn in HER homework, that action defeats the purpose of scaffolding. Will Mommy be there in college to turn in Jo Jo's paper?

The point of scaffolding is weaning. These measures aren't to be used forever. And if X isn't working, you don't keep on doing X.

Were you asleep during Teaching 101? Or perhaps you're NOT an educator, which would make me feel a hell of a lot better.
Anonymous
Post 03/24/2016 23:41     Subject: Re:turning in homework
Most of DS turns in his homework online, so it has been going better this year. Last year in middle school, he lost lots of credit for forgetting to hand in his hard copy homework. Online seems to be a good system for him.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2016 12:57     Subject: turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ADHD 8th grade kid (140 IQ, w/100 PS) and here is what his organizational coach has him do (yes, we reached the point where he needed an organizational coach. Best $$ ever spent). He has a two sided folder. One side, homework in (to be done) the other homework out (completed) arranged by class, 1st period on top. It seems to be working, because homework is (finally!!) being turned in this year. Not sure if this is because it is in one central place and not getting lost/crumpled in the bottom of his backpack, or because if his 3rd period math teacher has them take the homework out to look at a problem as a class, he can see that 1st and 2nd period were not turned in and, you know, turn them in. But it does work.


PP, where did you find an organizational coach? Would you mind sharing the name? My DS in 6th seems to need a lot of day to day coaching. His teachers and advisor are fabulous about it but I want him to be more independent.


pp on this. We hired one through Educational Connections, which our psychologist recommended. We had a different one last year than this year, and both have been excellent. $80/hour, at our house, and they are able to get him into strong A territory in one hour a week. Good luck!


$80 an hour?? You parents with your coaches, tutors, test prep classes, coddling, etc...

I would love to see how middle/high schoolers performed without Mommy and Daddy's $$$. Oh wait, I know. Whitman would preform just like Wheaton.


Why wouldn't you get help for your child if you could afford it and they need it? My goal is to teach my son skills so he is independent. It's the exact opposite of coddling. Coddling would be making excuses for his behavior, asking for special exceptions, etc.
Anonymous
Post 03/22/2016 12:30     Subject: turning in homework

This is why my 4th grader had the lowest grade all year - by spending hours on his writing at home, then FORGETTING to hand it in before the deadline. Mind-boggle.

He was then diagnosed with severe inattentive ADHD.

Anonymous
Post 03/22/2016 11:16     Subject: turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ADHD 8th grade kid (140 IQ, w/100 PS) and here is what his organizational coach has him do (yes, we reached the point where he needed an organizational coach. Best $$ ever spent). He has a two sided folder. One side, homework in (to be done) the other homework out (completed) arranged by class, 1st period on top. It seems to be working, because homework is (finally!!) being turned in this year. Not sure if this is because it is in one central place and not getting lost/crumpled in the bottom of his backpack, or because if his 3rd period math teacher has them take the homework out to look at a problem as a class, he can see that 1st and 2nd period were not turned in and, you know, turn them in. But it does work.


PP, where did you find an organizational coach? Would you mind sharing the name? My DS in 6th seems to need a lot of day to day coaching. His teachers and advisor are fabulous about it but I want him to be more independent.


pp on this. We hired one through Educational Connections, which our psychologist recommended. We had a different one last year than this year, and both have been excellent. $80/hour, at our house, and they are able to get him into strong A territory in one hour a week. Good luck!


$80 an hour?? You parents with your coaches, tutors, test prep classes, coddling, etc...

I would love to see how middle/high schoolers performed without Mommy and Daddy's $$$. Oh wait, I know. Whitman would preform just like Wheaton.


+ 1,000,000
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2016 18:28     Subject: turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:Is your son smart? It's VERY common with smart kids to do great work and then not turn it in. Especially if they dislike the teacher - I think the act of giving something to someone they want, that you don't like, is a hard hurdle to overcome.


Yes, but he is also an idiot, as revealed by his inability to turn in his homework. He does not have issues when he doesn't like his teachers, but just generally.


He does not have an iep and I don't know his iq.

Anonymous
Post 03/21/2016 10:06     Subject: turning in homework
I don't have ADHD, was a very good student, but was never very organized. It never became much of a problem until college, when I realized I was missing assignments, etc. the only thing that has ever worked for me as a student and as an adult, is a simple assignment notebook. Electronic lists don't work well for me, unless it's a grocery list. If I were more organized, it would resemble a checklist and have a calendar inside, but I am not more organized. I rely on my outlook, Google calendar, etc. sporadically, but always struggle with forgetting or being late to meetings, etc. I say give him a very simple protocol to follow -- a few have been suggested in this chain -- the simpler, the better. Like, a checklist.
Anonymous
Post 03/21/2016 09:20     Subject: turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ADHD 8th grade kid (140 IQ, w/100 PS) and here is what his organizational coach has him do (yes, we reached the point where he needed an organizational coach. Best $$ ever spent). He has a two sided folder. One side, homework in (to be done) the other homework out (completed) arranged by class, 1st period on top. It seems to be working, because homework is (finally!!) being turned in this year. Not sure if this is because it is in one central place and not getting lost/crumpled in the bottom of his backpack, or because if his 3rd period math teacher has them take the homework out to look at a problem as a class, he can see that 1st and 2nd period were not turned in and, you know, turn them in. But it does work.


PP, where did you find an organizational coach? Would you mind sharing the name? My DS in 6th seems to need a lot of day to day coaching. His teachers and advisor are fabulous about it but I want him to be more independent.


pp on this. We hired one through Educational Connections, which our psychologist recommended. We had a different one last year than this year, and both have been excellent. $80/hour, at our house, and they are able to get him into strong A territory in one hour a week. Good luck!


$80 an hour?? You parents with your coaches, tutors, test prep classes, coddling, etc...

I would love to see how middle/high schoolers performed without Mommy and Daddy's $$$. Oh wait, I know. Whitman would preform just like Wheaton.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2016 21:14     Subject: turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ADHD 8th grade kid (140 IQ, w/100 PS) and here is what his organizational coach has him do (yes, we reached the point where he needed an organizational coach. Best $$ ever spent). He has a two sided folder. One side, homework in (to be done) the other homework out (completed) arranged by class, 1st period on top. It seems to be working, because homework is (finally!!) being turned in this year. Not sure if this is because it is in one central place and not getting lost/crumpled in the bottom of his backpack, or because if his 3rd period math teacher has them take the homework out to look at a problem as a class, he can see that 1st and 2nd period were not turned in and, you know, turn them in. But it does work.


PP, where did you find an organizational coach? Would you mind sharing the name? My DS in 6th seems to need a lot of day to day coaching. His teachers and advisor are fabulous about it but I want him to be more independent.


pp on this. We hired one through Educational Connections, which our psychologist recommended. We had a different one last year than this year, and both have been excellent. $80/hour, at our house, and they are able to get him into strong A territory in one hour a week. Good luck!
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2016 21:02     Subject: Re:turning in homework



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My son emails it to the teacher and me. He is also supposed to turn it in to the teacher. If the teacher doesn't get it or doesn't see my son during the day, she emails me and I forward it to her. He has an IEP and this is one of his goals.


So enabling him is a helpful strategy?

Who the hell identified THIS "strategy" on his IEP?


What you call enabling is actually scaffolding. If the child can't get from A to B, what do you think would be an acceptasble strategy to get them there?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2016 20:29     Subject: Re:turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:My son emails it to the teacher and me. He is also supposed to turn it in to the teacher. If the teacher doesn't get it or doesn't see my son during the day, she emails me and I forward it to her. He has an IEP and this is one of his goals.


So enabling him is a helpful strategy?

Who the hell identified THIS "strategy" on his IEP?
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2016 20:27     Subject: turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:Is your son smart? It's VERY common with smart kids to do great work and then not turn it in. Especially if they dislike the teacher - I think the act of giving something to someone they want, that you don't like, is a hard hurdle to overcome.


Are you f-ing kidding me? What an incredibly stupid post!

Passive-aggressive behavior is learned.

Tree, meet your apple.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2016 20:10     Subject: turning in homework
My high functioning on the spectrum grand daughter used to not turn her homework in on purpose because she believes grades are stupid. Now she is in 8 the grade and is turning it in because she suddenly cares about her grades, but she told her mother, " I hate you for making mr care about my grades". I just love this kid so much. She always makes me smile and she is such an original thinker. I am so glad she is like she is. I would not want her to be normal, if anyone truly is normal.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2016 19:19     Subject: Re:turning in homework
Anonymous wrote:My ADHD 9th grader (IQ unknown, haha) is more likely to do the homework but leave it at home, where he may or may not lose it or forget about it before it eventually makes it to school. If it makes it to school, it usually gets turned in. Missing HW might occasionally make the difference between a B+ and an A-, but it hasn't been a huge problem - teachers vary, but some seem to accept it late. I remind him to check Blackboard and ask him if he has the right binders in the morning, but that's about the extent of it.

We're in FCPS, so having access to the gradebook via SIS this year has actually been very helpful to him (he can easily see if something is missing).


In DCPS, HW accounts for about 50% of a student's grade. Not turning in a couple of HWs can drop a student a letter grade, more if it is a chronic problem.