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Anonymous wrote:OP- It's a story. A beautiful story of unconditional love and sacrifice. The idea that a smitey, all-powerful God would send his "son" to earth to suffer a horrible death is something most logical people understand as ridiculous. That line of reasoning makes no sense. God (who is perfect and incapable of creating anything but perfection) somehow created you "bad" so that you could be "saved" by the suffering and death of his son? That was the only way? Really? Again, there is no logic in that.

Jesus was the Christ in the sense that he came to earth as a perfect expression of God to show us the way. As a Christian, he is my way-shower. Other faiths have their way-showers. We are all expressions of our Creator (our Source). Jesus was just a really, really good expression of God in human form. He preached love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness, and most of all kindness. He allowed himself to be crucified even though he wasn't guilty. What greater love is there? He freely accepted death when he likely would have been set free had he been willing to stop teaching.

His example is one we should all follow - unconditional love for people we don't even know. Love for people who want to hurt us. Love for our enemies. Love for every being on this planet. God didn't send Jesus to "die for your sins". You were created in love, perfectly. You don't need to be saved from "sin". Salvation is the Christian term for enlightenment - most just don't know it.

Just my opinion as a Christian in a more progressive Christian church.

Ye of little faith -

Read Job. Do you know how God created the earth? Likewise you may never fully understand how God could allow his son to die.

Anonymous wrote:OP- It's a story. A beautiful story of unconditional love and sacrifice. The idea that a smitey, all-powerful God would send his "son" to earth to suffer a horrible death is something most logical people understand as ridiculous. That line of reasoning makes no sense. God (who is perfect and incapable of creating anything but perfection) somehow created you "bad" so that you could be "saved" by the suffering and death of his son? That was the only way? Really? Again, there is no logic in that.

Jesus was the Christ in the sense that he came to earth as a perfect expression of God to show us the way. As a Christian, he is my way-shower. Other faiths have their way-showers. We are all expressions of our Creator (our Source). Jesus was just a really, really good expression of God in human form. He preached love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness, and most of all kindness. He allowed himself to be crucified even though he wasn't guilty. What greater love is there? He freely accepted death when he likely would have been set free had he been willing to stop teaching.

His example is one we should all follow - unconditional love for people we don't even know. Love for people who want to hurt us. Love for our enemies. Love for every being on this planet. God didn't send Jesus to "die for your sins". You were created in love, perfectly. You don't need to be saved from "sin". Salvation is the Christian term for enlightenment - most just don't know it.

Just my opinion as a Christian in a more progressive Christian church.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP- It's a story. A beautiful story of unconditional love and sacrifice. The idea that a smitey, all-powerful God would send his "son" to earth to suffer a horrible death is something most logical people understand as ridiculous. That line of reasoning makes no sense. God (who is perfect and incapable of creating anything but perfection) somehow created you "bad" so that you could be "saved" by the suffering and death of his son? That was the only way? Really? Again, there is no logic in that.

Jesus was the Christ in the sense that he came to earth as a perfect expression of God to show us the way. As a Christian, he is my way-shower. Other faiths have their way-showers. We are all expressions of our Creator (our Source). Jesus was just a really, really good expression of God in human form. He preached love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness, and most of all kindness. He allowed himself to be crucified even though he wasn't guilty. What greater love is there? He freely accepted death when he likely would have been set free had he been willing to stop teaching.

His example is one we should all follow - unconditional love for people we don't even know. Love for people who want to hurt us. Love for our enemies. Love for every being on this planet. God didn't send Jesus to "die for your sins". You were created in love, perfectly. You don't need to be saved from "sin". Salvation is the Christian term for enlightenment - most just don't know it.

Just my opinion as a Christian in a more progressive Christian church.

Where did the poster say he or she has never sinned?
So you've never sinned?

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Anonymous wrote:I did not grow up religious, but my husband is and we are raising our children Catholic. Please explain to me- When it says Jesus died for our sins or my sins what do they mean. I wasn't alive then...ha..ha.. Are we talking about the sins of mankind?

Why pretend to believe your husband's faith???

Anonymous wrote:I did not grow up religious, but my husband is and we are raising our children Catholic. Please explain to me- When it says Jesus died for our sins or my sins what do they mean. I wasn't alive then...ha..ha.. Are we talking about the sins of mankind?

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Anonymous wrote:Troll. If you are raising your kids catholic, you already know the answer to this. You are that nasty atheist who dumbs down all religions into a cartoon.

Why would someone who is allowing her kids to be raised in her DH's Catholic faith, be either a nasty atheist (would a nasty atheist marry a Catholic and allow him to raise the kids in the church?) or already educated in a religion she doesn't belong to?

Because she is lying because she wants to make fun of the responses she gets. If she really wanted the Catholic answer, she'd just ask any priest/nun/monk at her school

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Troll. If you are raising your kids catholic, you already know the answer to this. You are that nasty atheist who dumbs down all religions into a cartoon.

Why would someone who is allowing her kids to be raised in her DH's Catholic faith, be either a nasty atheist (would a nasty atheist marry a Catholic and allow him to raise the kids in the church?) or already educated in a religion she doesn't belong to?

Because she is lying because she wants to make fun of the responses she gets. If she really wanted the Catholic answer, she'd just ask any priest/nun/monk at her school

Anonymous wrote:OP- It's a story. A beautiful story of unconditional love and sacrifice. The idea that a smitey, all-powerful God would send his "son" to earth to suffer a horrible death is something most logical people understand as ridiculous. That line of reasoning makes no sense. God (who is perfect and incapable of creating anything but perfection) somehow created you "bad" so that you could be "saved" by the suffering and death of his son? That was the only way? Really? Again, there is no logic in that.

Jesus was the Christ in the sense that he came to earth as a perfect expression of God to show us the way. As a Christian, he is my way-shower. Other faiths have their way-showers. We are all expressions of our Creator (our Source). Jesus was just a really, really good expression of God in human form. He preached love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness, and most of all kindness. He allowed himself to be crucified even though he wasn't guilty. What greater love is there? He freely accepted death when he likely would have been set free had he been willing to stop teaching.

His example is one we should all follow - unconditional love for people we don't even know. Love for people who want to hurt us. Love for our enemies. Love for every being on this planet. God didn't send Jesus to "die for your sins". You were created in love, perfectly. You don't need to be saved from "sin". Salvation is the Christian term for enlightenment - most just don't know it.

Just my opinion as a Christian in a more progressive Christian church.

Anonymous wrote:Read the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. Seriously. It's a great allegory with Aslan as Christ that doesn't exactly explain the mystery, but certainly offers some perspective.

And here's the link to the Catholic catechism. It's the official go-to source:
http://wwwmigrate.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/

Here's the specific section about Christ's death: http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm

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Anonymous wrote:So if he died for our sins that means we can't sin anymore and we all have a free ticket to heaven right? Otherwise what's the point of his dying?

I agree. And since he atoned for us, we do not carry the burden of the original sin anymore! Hooray! Now we can all become Buddhists!