Anonymous
01/16/2016 15:12
Subject: Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[droom (copies of Raphael and Davinci paintings). They are pretty but too much for me.
Another atheist DH with a lapsed Catholic DW. She has a couple of very pretty crucifixes that she hung above doors in bedrooms. Just a piece of art as far as I'm concerned, but they are important to her. The paintings sound beautiful. Wouldn't bother me from a religious perspective because, again, to me it's just beautiful art. In the same vein, she understands why I have a little statue of Baphomet on my desk and send checks to the Satanists legal fund to support their fights against Christians who have such difficulty understanding the meaning of the 1st Amendment
This is so interesting. So you're an atheist who thinks that pranks against Christians (only) are productive ways to engage. And you're male (actually that has always seemed obvious from your posts).
Are you the troll who disrupts most threads about Christianity with shallow silliness.
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Are you the troll who disrupts most threads by complaining about atheist comments? one who is completely hung up on horas and mithras.
Groundhog! Is it you?
In any case, we'll take that as a "yes," that you're the disruptive atheist troll. (No, I'm not the poster who coined the term "Groundhog" and keeps using it, but I find her response to your annual Horus and Mithras nonsense hilarious.)
Please can I beg your indulgence, and since you're under the cover of anonymity, to ask you a few questions?!
Here's the paradox of your behavior. Disrupting nativity displays at the courthouse is materially different from trolling DCUM threads. The first is a constitutional issue, as you say, and in fact I'm 100% with you on the constitutional issue (although I wouldn't address it by being obnoxious and juvenile, instead I'd hire serious lawyers). The second, trolling DCUM to disrupt conversations about religious imagery, has no constitutional rationale and you're free to leave any time or just not open the thread. In fact, by trolling here, you're disrupting the freedom of speech of posters here to discuss things like religious imagery in their houses. So, here are my questions for you:
1. What are you hoping to accomplish by trolling here? The courthouse hijinks have an obvious constitutional angle. But you seem to have changed direction with your trolling on a mom's chat board--no constitutional issue here. What's it to you that people want to discuss religious imagery?
2. Given that you're accomplishing nothing here besides making an ass out of yourself (deliberately or no), don't you ever wonder whether you should be spending your time more productively? Like, I dunno, going outside to enjoy the unseasonably nice weather, or taking up golf or something? Because honestly, dear Groundhog, your bombastic and shallow (cf Horus and Mithras) and just plain rude approach makes people roll their eyes instead of taking you seriously. I doubt you've made a single convert to atheism.
3. Do you only troll Christian threads? It sure seems like it. Why do you have a special animus for Christians?
4. What does your wife with the religious imagery think about your trolling here? Does she know about it?
TIA!
Anonymous
01/16/2016 15:09
Subject: Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Anonymous wrote:Small ones in each bedroom. There's a holy water font on the wall next to front door so we can bless ourselves as we leave. Our family altar in in the dining room. It's pretty discrete and fellow Catholic tend to notice it more than non-Catholics. There are bibles and small religious statutes in each room. My DD each have a 3 inch guardian angel in unglazed cream colored pottery. I have a small statue of Mary. My fiancé has a wooden carved portrait of St. Joseph that he got when he became a stepfather. Everyone has a bedside Bible. There is a Bible in the living room. I also have a Missal with the Offices in print in our bedroom, but prefer to use Divine Office on my iPhone. There's a Catholic calendar next to DD#2's bed because she's a lector. We have a small framed portrait for each patron saint (baptismal name and/or confirmation name), one of St. JPII, and one of Pope Emeritus Benedict, and one of His Holiness Francis. On any given day, you'll see 4 rosaries in various stages of use. I also tend to forget to put back on my scapular immediately after my morning shower, so that might be on the back of the bathroom door. There is blessed salt in the kitchen. We are NOT the most devout family we know either.
Wait, your fiancé? You have that much Catholicism going on and you are living in sin with children?
Anonymous
01/16/2016 15:04
Subject: Re:Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Inside above the front door, outside above the front door.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 14:44
Subject: Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[droom (copies of Raphael and Davinci paintings). They are pretty but too much for me.
Another atheist DH with a lapsed Catholic DW. She has a couple of very pretty crucifixes that she hung above doors in bedrooms. Just a piece of art as far as I'm concerned, but they are important to her. The paintings sound beautiful. Wouldn't bother me from a religious perspective because, again, to me it's just beautiful art. In the same vein, she understands why I have a little statue of Baphomet on my desk and send checks to the Satanists legal fund to support their fights against Christians who have such difficulty understanding the meaning of the 1st Amendment
This is so interesting. So you're an atheist who thinks that pranks against Christians (only) are productive ways to engage. And you're male (actually that has always seemed obvious from your posts).
Are you the troll who disrupts most threads about Christianity with shallow silliness?
As the aforementioned atheist DH, I'll take your questions in reverse order.
I highly doubt that I'm the person you're accusing of disrupting threads about Christianity. Nor would I consider this post trolling. I think my post here answered the question about where the crucifixes in my home are and I respect my wife's desire to have them even though she's a lapsed Catholic. To me they are beautiful pieces of art that have additional importance to my wife.
As far as "pranking" Christians is concerned, the only time I consider it relevant is when certain groups attempt to legislate Christianity or do other things that impermissibly demonstrate governmental favor of Christianity in violation of the 1st Amendment. There are many ways to address it - one is to simply fight it in the courts on legal grounds, and there are groups that do that. Litigation is expensive and litigation over issues like this are a waste of taxpayer money. For example, the Dover School Board should've known better, yet they wasted enormous amounts of money attempting to defend teaching creationism in a public school. This kind of thing happens over and over, and, yet, certain militant Christian groups keep trying to force their beliefs into public schools.
Another less expensive way to handle this is to demonstrate that if these particular Christian theocrats (and they are a very small, but vocal minority of Christians) get to do what they want, then the 1st Amendment means another group they despise - Satanists - will get to do the same thing. In those situations, the Christians usually decide they would rather not get their way if it means equal treatment for Satanists.
Take Orange County, Florida, for example, where groups were distributing Bibles in public schools. An atheist group sued to prevent it, but while that suit was slowly working its way through the courts, the Satanists stepped in and said that if Bibles were being distributed then they had the right to distribute a "Satanist" coloring/activity book.
Rather than have that type of "evil" literature distributed, the school board instead decided on a policy that cut off all distribution of religious material in the school.
The Satanic Temple also uses the various state Religious Freedom laws, still championed now by certain Christian groups as a means to avoid recognizing gay marriages, to argue against restrictions on abortion that are consistently (and primarily) supported by conservative Christian groups.
As an atheist, I'm not a Satanist (but, in truth, most members of the Satanic Temple are also atheists), but I support the legal work that they do in resisting the attempts by certain conservative Christian groups to insert Christianity into the public sphere in ways that violate the 1st Amendment.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 14:31
Subject: Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you should address post to target audience in the title? "Catholics: where do you keep..."
It takes away the presumption that anyone reading the title has one. Most people don't.
Wow, just wow. I would not be offended if I saw a post titled "how many of your doorframe have a mezuzah?" I wouldn't think the OP assumed everyone has a mezuzah. I wouldn't need the modifier "Jews:" at the start of the title. I certainly would not click the thread just to write douchy replies.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 14:09
Subject: Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Maybe you should address post to target audience in the title? "Catholics: where do you keep..."
It takes away the presumption that anyone reading the title has one. Most people don't.
It takes away the presumption that anyone reading the title has one. Most people don't.
Anonymous
01/16/2016 14:04
Subject: Where is your crucifix hung in your home? And other religious pieces?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:[droom (copies of Raphael and Davinci paintings). They are pretty but too much for me.
Another atheist DH with a lapsed Catholic DW. She has a couple of very pretty crucifixes that she hung above doors in bedrooms. Just a piece of art as far as I'm concerned, but they are important to her. The paintings sound beautiful. Wouldn't bother me from a religious perspective because, again, to me it's just beautiful art. In the same vein, she understands why I have a little statue of Baphomet on my desk and send checks to the Satanists legal fund to support their fights against Christians who have such difficulty understanding the meaning of the 1st Amendment
This is so interesting. So you're an atheist who thinks that pranks against Christians (only) are productive ways to engage. And you're male (actually that has always seemed obvious from your posts).
Are you the troll who disrupts most threads about Christianity with shallow silliness?
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Are you the troll who disrupts most threads by complaining about atheist comments? one who is completely hung up on horas and mithras.