Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 20:49     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
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Anonymous wrote:Mensa has its benefits. We use it for discounts on prep courses for our kids.


Oh the irony.


you're a fool if you don't think smart people use prep courses. Familiarity and comfort level on a test can mean the difference between 5 or 8 points.


Then call me a fool. NP here. But have to say that none of my kids have every prepped for a standardized test and they've all done great.


Would you like a cookie? No one said kids couldn't do great without prep. But prep could be the difference between 2380 on the SAT and 2260.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 20:40     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mensa has its benefits. We use it for discounts on prep courses for our kids.


Oh the irony.


you're a fool if you don't think smart people use prep courses. Familiarity and comfort level on a test can mean the difference between 5 or 8 points.


Then call me a fool. NP here. But have to say that none of my kids have every prepped for a standardized test and they've all done great.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 17:50     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
We find Mensa to be beneficial but other than this thread we don't talk about belonging.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 17:46     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mensa has its benefits. We use it for discounts on prep courses for our kids.


Oh the irony.


you're a fool if you don't think smart people use prep courses. Familiarity and comfort level on a test can mean the difference between 5 or 8 points.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 17:14     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:Mensa has its benefits. We use it for discounts on prep courses for our kids.


Oh the irony.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 16:49     Subject: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
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Anonymous wrote:Mensa accepts IQs of only the 130s?? I'm shocked because,while it is above average, thatso all that is. Like a typical lawyer.


130 is at the second sigma, above average is below that.


I don't even know what this means.


Thanks for posting that- I have no idea what PP meant either...


Not PP. Second sigma refers to two standard deviations, which is way above average.


Geek here. Assuming that IQ of kids follow a Normal Distribution (bell-shaped and well behaved). Then 2 sigma away from mean, or 2 standard deviation above mean would mean that the kid is at top 2.5 percentile of the IQ distribution.


So then why does AAP reject kids with 130+? I know no one here is on the selection committee. It's rhetorical and the essence of OP's question, I think. No?


Historically, the cut off was at 10% of the local FCPS students taking the exam, which equated to between 130-134 on the CogAt -depending on the year. Fairfax County has more than its share of smart kids- so many do not need a special program as there are already plenty of peers in the base school.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 16:44     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Mensa has its benefits. We use it for discounts on prep courses for our kids.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:36     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:Mensa tells you more about a person self esteem then it does a person's "genius". Its a useless organization that gives you zero benefits except for the ability to brag at a cocktail party. To get into Mensa there are SEVERAL test you can take


Totally agree. I had a college friend once that bragged about being in MENSA. In the past few years I looked up the requirements and realized it is nothing special.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:34     Subject: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mensa accepts IQs of only the 130s?? I'm shocked because,while it is above average, thatso all that is. Like a typical lawyer.


130 is at the second sigma, above average is below that.


I don't even know what this means.


Thanks for posting that- I have no idea what PP meant either...


Not PP. Second sigma refers to two standard deviations, which is way above average.


Geek here. Assuming that IQ of kids follow a Normal Distribution (bell-shaped and well behaved). Then 2 sigma away from mean, or 2 standard deviation above mean would mean that the kid is at top 2.5 percentile of the IQ distribution.


So then why does AAP reject kids with 130+? I know no one here is on the selection committee. It's rhetorical and the essence of OP's question, I think. No?


And yet according to others it is way too bloated. Can't please anyone.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:33     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Mensa tells you more about a person self esteem then it does a person's "genius". Its a useless organization that gives you zero benefits except for the ability to brag at a cocktail party. To get into Mensa there are SEVERAL test you can take
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:25     Subject: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
CoGAT can also be used to qualify for Mensa.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:23     Subject: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mensa accepts IQs of only the 130s?? I'm shocked because,while it is above average, thatso all that is. Like a typical lawyer.


130 is at the second sigma, above average is below that.


I don't even know what this means.


Thanks for posting that- I have no idea what PP meant either...


Not PP. Second sigma refers to two standard deviations, which is way above average.


Geek here. Assuming that IQ of kids follow a Normal Distribution (bell-shaped and well behaved). Then 2 sigma away from mean, or 2 standard deviation above mean would mean that the kid is at top 2.5 percentile of the IQ distribution.


So then why does AAP reject kids with 130+? I know no one here is on the selection committee. It's rhetorical and the essence of OP's question, I think. No?
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:22     Subject: Re: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
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Anonymous wrote:It's been awhile and we didn't save it but my child was in pool on both tests, meaning he made the cutoff on both. His GBRS was low. I don't recall it, but it wasn't a two digit number. But one would think the WISC would have done the trick. How could he be good enough for MENSA (which we did not join) but not some school districts AAP program. You see stories on the internet about kids getting into MENSA and everyone oohs and ahhs but clearly it's not impressive to FCPS, since they reject kids from AAP who could qualify for it. I wonder if they reject Davidson Scholar qualifying kids too. Probably. Anyway, we did appeal and he got in but still . . .


Considering you appealed, had an IQ test done, and know what MENSA's scores are, I find it utterly NOT believable you don't know your son's precise GBRS.


You would be wrong. It was 2 years ago. It was low though. I know it was single digit. But I saw all his GBRS from K-2 and can't recall which one was from 2nd grade.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 15:17     Subject: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mensa accepts IQs of only the 130s?? I'm shocked because,while it is above average, thatso all that is. Like a typical lawyer.


130 is at the second sigma, above average is below that.


I don't even know what this means.


Thanks for posting that- I have no idea what PP meant either...


Not PP. Second sigma refers to two standard deviations, which is way above average.


Geek here. Assuming that IQ of kids follow a Normal Distribution (bell-shaped and well behaved). Then 2 sigma away from mean, or 2 standard deviation above mean would mean that the kid is at top 2.5 percentile of the IQ distribution.
Anonymous
Post 01/04/2016 13:26     Subject: Good enough for Mensa but not FCPS AAP program??
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Mensa accepts IQs of only the 130s?? I'm shocked because,while it is above average, thatso all that is. Like a typical lawyer.


130 is at the second sigma, above average is below that.


I don't even know what this means.


Thanks for posting that- I have no idea what PP meant either...


Not PP. Second sigma refers to two standard deviations, which is way above average.