Anonymous
Post 12/24/2015 01:09     Subject: Cruz cartoon

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Anonymous wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901

First, the cartoon was making fun of you for treating your family like props. The cartoon does not ridicule your daughters.

Second, if you don't want your family to be discussed/depicted in the news, stop using them like props in your campaign. If you make them campaign for you, then you can't complain when they are a topic of discussion.

DUMB.ASS.


Children aren't off limits? So we can treat Obama's daughters that way?


Oh I think y'all did enough to Sasha and malia already.


Can you show me how Obama's girls were maligned by conservative media?


There were many right wing attacks on his kids, for example shameful NRA sponsored ads asking if Obama's daughters were more important than your own, GOP communications Elizabeth Lauten attacking them over their clothes at a Thanksgiving event, et cetera...


Because they're such lovely, smart girls, I mostly see complimentary comments and articles about them. Certainly, I would be disgusted if they were portrayed in a cartoon as monkeys; and I feel the same about Cruz's daughters. You think it's okay to show a politician's children as monkeys?!


NP here, not the one you're asking. But I don't think that one truthfully pointing out that the Obama girls have been maligned by conservative media automatically means that one thinks that anyone maligning the Cruz girls is OK.
Anonymous
Post 12/24/2015 00:44     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901

First, the cartoon was making fun of you for treating your family like props. The cartoon does not ridicule your daughters.

Second, if you don't want your family to be discussed/depicted in the news, stop using them like props in your campaign. If you make them campaign for you, then you can't complain when they are a topic of discussion.

DUMB.ASS.



Children aren't off limits? So we can treat Obama's daughters that way?


Oh I think y'all did enough to Sasha and malia already.


Can you show me how Obama's girls were maligned by conservative media?


There were many right wing attacks on his kids, for example shameful NRA sponsored ads asking if Obama's daughters were more important than your own, GOP communications Elizabeth Lauten attacking them over their clothes at a Thanksgiving event, et cetera...


Because they're such lovely, smart girls, I mostly see complimentary comments and articles about them. Certainly, I would be disgusted if they were portrayed in a cartoon as monkeys; and I feel the same about Cruz's daughters. You think it's okay to show a politician's children as monkeys?!
Anonymous
Post 12/24/2015 00:11     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901

First, the cartoon was making fun of you for treating your family like props. The cartoon does not ridicule your daughters.

Second, if you don't want your family to be discussed/depicted in the news, stop using them like props in your campaign. If you make them campaign for you, then you can't complain when they are a topic of discussion.

DUMB.ASS.



Children aren't off limits? So we can treat Obama's daughters that way?


Oh I think y'all did enough to Sasha and malia already.


Can you show me how Obama's girls were maligned by conservative media?


There were many right wing attacks on his kids, for example shameful NRA sponsored ads asking if Obama's daughters were more important than your own, GOP communications Elizabeth Lauten attacking them over their clothes at a Thanksgiving event, et cetera...
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 22:41     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:Cruz made his kids fair game by his typically tasteless exploitation ... he got what was coming to him.
I have no problem that the WP removed the cartoon but I do not think that in this case it crossed the line because Rafael Eduardo Cruz made a deliberate choice to make his kids an active part of his message, including partisan attacks rather than a typical beauty pageant type shot.

He can dish it out but he can't take it, being the hypocritical chickenshite that he is.


They are little girls. There is no 'fair game' unless you feel it's ok to take out the decisions of parents on their kids?
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 22:40     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901

First, the cartoon was making fun of you for treating your family like props. The cartoon does not ridicule your daughters.

Second, if you don't want your family to be discussed/depicted in the news, stop using them like props in your campaign. If you make them campaign for you, then you can't complain when they are a topic of discussion.

DUMB.ASS.



Children aren't off limits? So we can treat Obama's daughters that way?


Oh I think y'all did enough to Sasha and malia already.


Can you show me how Obama's girls were maligned by conservative media?
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 22:19     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Dem here. Cruz is right. The cartoon was out of line.

Those are small kids.

That said, he also should stop using them as props, IMHO. But, really, the cartoon was ridiculous.

As for Jeff, I don't see what political correctness has anything to do with this.


They are his daughters. He is not using them as props.


The hell he isn't...
if he merely shows them in an ad as his daughters, you are right.

But when he has them playing active parts in partisan political scripted dialogue, that line is crossed IMO.


+1. I was gobsmacked by the decision to let the little girl take pot shots at Hillary Clinton. It was in such poor taste. Now two wrongs don't make a right and the cartoonist should have left it alone but what were his political advisors thinking.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 22:14     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Dem here. Cruz is right. The cartoon was out of line.

Those are small kids.

That said, he also should stop using them as props, IMHO. But, really, the cartoon was ridiculous.

As for Jeff, I don't see what political correctness has anything to do with this.


They are his daughters. He is not using them as props.


The hell he isn't...
if he merely shows them in an ad as his daughters, you are right.

But when he has them playing active parts in partisan political scripted dialogue, that line is crossed IMO.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 22:13     Subject: Cruz cartoon

takoma wrote:Am I the only one that thinks the Cruz ad with the kids is absolutely sickening, and will eventually do him more harm than the silly cartoon can alleviate?


pp here (22:09), I agree it's revolting --- so much of what he does is --- but I don't see it doing him harm... he is immune from that because his rabid and deluded followers live in the Faux News "fright wing media" juggernaut bubble and are not exposed to reality.

As to other voters, I think his odious slime would be exposed in other ways as things progress but perhaps this will be part of that, he is so loathsome.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 22:09     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Cruz made his kids fair game by his typically tasteless exploitation ... he got what was coming to him.
I have no problem that the WP removed the cartoon but I do not think that in this case it crossed the line because Rafael Eduardo Cruz made a deliberate choice to make his kids an active part of his message, including partisan attacks rather than a typical beauty pageant type shot.

He can dish it out but he can't take it, being the hypocritical chickenshite that he is.
takoma
Post 12/23/2015 22:05     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Am I the only one that thinks the Cruz ad with the kids is absolutely sickening, and will eventually do him more harm than the silly cartoon can alleviate?
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 21:53     Subject: Cruz cartoon

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Anonymous wrote:I thought that the Post shouldn't have published it and I'm a liberal.


+1

I am also a liberal and it really is quite pathetic when anyone justifies the sort of thing the WP did. To WP's credit they removed the cartoon as soon as it surfaced as an issue. The cartoonist trying to defend her actions was ludicrous.


+2. That was a really, really tasteless cartoon. I am very surprised it was published.


+3. Portraying his kids as monkeys isn't cool.


The editor said she failed to review it before publication, but pulled it when she saw it. So the wapo agrees.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 21:51     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/ted-cruz-blasts-washington-post-cartoon-daughters-monkeys-n484901

First, the cartoon was making fun of you for treating your family like props. The cartoon does not ridicule your daughters.

Second, if you don't want your family to be discussed/depicted in the news, stop using them like props in your campaign. If you make them campaign for you, then you can't complain when they are a topic of discussion.

DUMB.ASS.



Children aren't off limits? So we can treat Obama's daughters that way?


Oh I think y'all did enough to Sasha and malia already.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 21:50     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Anonymous wrote:Dem here. Cruz is right. The cartoon was out of line.

Those are small kids.

That said, he also should stop using them as props, IMHO. But, really, the cartoon was ridiculous.

As for Jeff, I don't see what political correctness has anything to do with this.


They are his daughters. He is not using them as props.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 21:49     Subject: Re:Cruz cartoon

jsteele wrote:Because I am a PC liberal, I think that children of politicians should be off limits. Therefore, I though this cartoon was in bad taste and was pleased that the Post removed it. However, I am surprised that the "It's time to stop being PC" crowd is bothered by it.


We are not the "PC" crowd. We are the 'lay off innocent children' crowd.
Anonymous
Post 12/23/2015 21:24     Subject: Cruz cartoon

Did you hear the announcement to the press that Chelsea Clinton is expecting her second child?