Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jews dont worship Jesus as a son of God.
no but the God of the Jews is the God of the Christians.
Jesus is the God of Christians.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Plenty of Christians dont believe in the Trinity. From Arian onwards... As well as unitarians there are Christian Scientists, Quakers, Apostolic Pentacostalists etc.
There is consensus among almost all other Christian groups that unitarian beliefs are not Christian.
Okay.
Do they worship the same God as Christians?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, like Moses, that was sent by God to teach. It is not my understanding that Christians' only holy scriptures are the New Testament, and thus Christians also have as part of their heritage, eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, etc. The big difference is that most Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Muslims don't. IMHO, that doesn't make that God any different - just makes their belief in Jesus different.
If you do not believe in a Trinity you are not Christian- the Trinity is a basic tenet of Christianity.
Wikipedia says this: "Modern nontrinitarian Christian groups or denominations include Christadelphians, Christian Scientists, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Dawn Bible Students, Friends General Conference, Iglesia ni Cristo, Jehovah's Witnesses, Living Church of God, Oneness Pentecostals, Members Church of God International, Unitarian Universalist Christians, The Way International, The Church of God International and the United Church of God." Frankly I haven't heard of most of those and wouldn't have included Jehova's Witnesses, LDS or some of the others as Christian. The Trinity is in the New Testament, so I don't know how a Christian denomination couldn't believe it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Plenty of Christians dont believe in the Trinity. From Arian onwards... As well as unitarians there are Christian Scientists, Quakers, Apostolic Pentacostalists etc.
There is consensus among almost all other Christian groups that unitarian beliefs are not Christian.
Anonymous wrote:Plenty of Christians dont believe in the Trinity. From Arian onwards... As well as unitarians there are Christian Scientists, Quakers, Apostolic Pentacostalists etc.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, like Moses, that was sent by God to teach. It is not my understanding that Christians' only holy scriptures are the New Testament, and thus Christians also have as part of their heritage, eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, etc. The big difference is that most Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Muslims don't. IMHO, that doesn't make that God any different - just makes their belief in Jesus different.
If you do not believe in a Trinity you are not Christian- the Trinity is a basic tenet of Christianity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, like Moses, that was sent by God to teach. It is not my understanding that Christians' only holy scriptures are the New Testament, and thus Christians also have as part of their heritage, eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, etc. The big difference is that most Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Muslims don't. IMHO, that doesn't make that God any different - just makes their belief in Jesus different.
If you do not believe in a Trinity you are not Christian- the Trinity is a basic tenet of Christianity.
What about Unitarians?
Not Christian.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, like Moses, that was sent by God to teach. It is not my understanding that Christians' only holy scriptures are the New Testament, and thus Christians also have as part of their heritage, eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, etc. The big difference is that most Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Muslims don't. IMHO, that doesn't make that God any different - just makes their belief in Jesus different.
If you do not believe in a Trinity you are not Christian- the Trinity is a basic tenet of Christianity.
What about Unitarians?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Jews dont worship Jesus as a son of God.
no but the God of the Jews is the God of the Christians.
Jesus is the God of Christians.
Sort of. There's one God, but he's the father, son (Jesus) and Holy Spirit. As a Christian I was taught that Jews believe what Christians did before Jesus came. That Jews are still waiting. Same God though, Jews just don't recognize Jesus.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, like Moses, that was sent by God to teach. It is not my understanding that Christians' only holy scriptures are the New Testament, and thus Christians also have as part of their heritage, eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, etc. The big difference is that most Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Muslims don't. IMHO, that doesn't make that God any different - just makes their belief in Jesus different.
If you do not believe in a Trinity you are not Christian- the Trinity is a basic tenet of Christianity.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Not all Christians believe in the Trinity. Muslims believe that Jesus is a prophet, like Moses, that was sent by God to teach. It is not my understanding that Christians' only holy scriptures are the New Testament, and thus Christians also have as part of their heritage, eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, etc. The big difference is that most Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. Muslims don't. IMHO, that doesn't make that God any different - just makes their belief in Jesus different.
Anonymous wrote:Hope this isn't some pot-stirrer looking for trouble.
Sort of. They have the same root. The Christian God shows up in the Trinity but Islam is against that. Jesus in the gospels is very different from Jesus in the Quran on things like eye-for-eye justice, dietary restrictions, separation of church and state, turning the other cheek, and so on.
Anonymous wrote:Even the blasphemer is communicating with/about the same God as the rest of us, because there is only one God - any monotheistic religion is dedicated to the same God as the rest of the others; it's just that some people are misguided. But being misguided about how to communicate with God and what he's trying to tell us doesn't mean that another God exists. That is simply not true. I'm not sure how any one who claims to believe in God could conclude differently. If you're a polytheist, I'll give you a pass on this one, but any monotheist should fundamentally understand more than anything that there is one God and he has a relationship with all of his creation. The fact that some people misunderstand that relationship doesn't take away from his singleness.