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Anonymous wrote:Black on black violence and police violence against blacks are in some ways part and parcel of the same thing, that being a lack of regard for poor minorities, just look at how many of those black on black murders go unsolved. In many cases they are barely even investigated, with police turning a blind eye to the violence rather than aggressively getting the violent offenders off the street.

If the police took an aggressive stand in dealing with the violent offenders you can be sure that the BLM and their ilk will be accusing them of brutality.

The police have gotten themselves into a chicken and egg situation by devaluating and abusing poor communities, to the point of those communities viewing the cops as being just as bad as the criminals who prey on them. As a result, poor communities don't trust them and don't cooperate with them. The police need to work on improving that relationship, and that will then help toward being able to solving the distrust, improving the culture and getting the violent offenders off the street.

There are two separate issues at discussion here, both important and both deeply misunderstood by the OP and others.

1) Does the Black Community (tm) care about Black-on-Black violence?

Yes, of course. But the OP wouldn't see it because they don't live in a majority Black neighborhood, don't go to a majority Black church, and don't hang out at the barber shop on the corner.

There are heroes working every day to combat Black-on-Black violence, working to keep kids out of trouble, working to undo the cycle of violence, to keep kids safe so that they don't become perpetrators or victims. There are also thousands of ex-cons working in schools and community centers to keep kids from making the same mistakes they made, and working to negotiate solutions between kids before they turn violent.

Those everyday heroes are not in the news because what they are doing is slow, hard, work. It's not a protest down the Miracle Mile because protests are most effective when the party whose actions you want to change have power. Protesting Black-on-Black violence with a street protest would be ineffective. Oh, yeah, we're all going to march down Miracle Mile to protest Brian down the street who turned his mama's house into a drug den.

2) Does Black Lives Matter care about Black-on-Black violence?

Not really, because they are an anti police brutality organization. Does the ACLU care about climate change? Does PETA care about police brutality? Organizations have missions, and BLM is about police brutality.

Anonymous wrote:Good for BLM to do this. more useful then running up on bernie sanders.

Now when are they going to protest in lamron? south side? 300 block? 600 block? Where chief keef, lil reese, fredo, and all the drill rapper savages rest at?

When will you? Never. When you step up on the issues you feel are so important, then you have a right to criticize where BLM applies their energy.

Good for BLM to do this. more useful then running up on bernie sanders.

Now when are they going to protest in lamron? south side? 300 block? 600 block? Where chief keef, lil reese, fredo, and all the drill rapper savages rest at?

Anonymous wrote:Black on black violence and police violence against blacks are in some ways part and parcel of the same thing, that being a lack of regard for poor minorities, just look at how many of those black on black murders go unsolved. In many cases they are barely even investigated, with police turning a blind eye to the violence rather than aggressively getting the violent offenders off the street.

If the police took an aggressive stand in dealing with the violent offenders you can be sure that the BLM and their ilk will be accusing them of brutality.

Black on black violence and police violence against blacks are in some ways part and parcel of the same thing, that being a lack of regard for poor minorities, just look at how many of those black on black murders go unsolved. In many cases they are barely even investigated, with police turning a blind eye to the violence rather than aggressively getting the violent offenders off the street.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.

Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.

Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.

A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.

That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.

Yes. My family is Egyptian and the protests that started about police bruality, by the way, on National Police Day, shut down the city near Tahrir Square. For YEARS. And yet, as far as I could tell, most Americans were cheering them on. But let BLACK Americans protest police brutality? Unacceptable.

You are missing the point: it is not that police brutality should be condoned. It is that thousands of blacks being killed by other blacks should matter a lot more. If there were no killings by the police, you would still have a horrendous number of blacks being killed by other blacks. It has been going on for years and merely getting worse.

I don't get how you're not getting it. As has been pointed out, black people have been protesting violence for years, to no attention and no avail. Does it really not occur to you that trust in law enforcement is essential to crime abatement? Having a fear of police that's equal to or greater than the fear of criminals not only exacerbates the problem for people in these communities, it exacerbates the crime.

And yes, that's been going on forever. In fact, that's pretty much the way it's always been. All of it driven by public policy that has corralled black Americans into ghettos, cutting them off from every conceivable path out of them, concentrating poverty and every other social ill in these communities, and then criminalizing everything about their impoverished state. The police are not here to help you; they're here to apply your government's boot to your neck. Figuratively and quite literally.

But YOU are the one who's not noticed or cared, hence BLM protest.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.

So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?

No one has to protest black on black violence. You protest when the government isn't doing something. Everyone knows they will do their best to solve these homicides. Not so sure they will prosecute bad cops.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.

Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.

Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.

A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.

That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.

Yes. My family is Egyptian and the protests that started about police bruality, by the way, on National Police Day, shut down the city near Tahrir Square. For YEARS. And yet, as far as I could tell, most Americans were cheering them on. But let BLACK Americans protest police brutality? Unacceptable.

You are missing the point: it is not that police brutality should be condoned. It is that thousands of blacks being killed by other blacks should matter a lot more. If there were no killings by the police, you would still have a horrendous number of blacks being killed by other blacks. It has been going on for years and merely getting worse.

Crime rates are getting MUCH lower. They peaked in the early 90s. It's much, much lower now. For a lot of reasons. One big reason is lead abatement. Lead poisoning in kids causes lifelong behavior issues and has been linked to violent crime for decades. As we got rid of it in house paint and gasoline, the crime rate also went down (as those kids grew up). This was espcially true in urban areas.

Policing has also changed for the better. Not everywhere unfortunately. And where you see the old style of policing you see more crime. But best practices for police work now relies heavily on community engagement with different neighborhood leaders. Faith groups, ethnic groups, neighborhood groups, schools, recreation departments, etc. A coordinated approach to remedying the causes of crime helps effectively reduce crime.

So while you try to manufacture outrage that black people aren't talking about black on black crime, the truth is that they have been talking, for decades, and they and urban governments have done something about it while you haven't been paying attention. It's not perfect and there's still work to do. But don't act like people don't care.

I agree. Police shootings face a lot of scrutiny, and are highly publicized (rightfuly so).... but blacks being killed by other (non-police) black exacts a much larger toll on the community. There seem to be no protests out there in proportion to number of deaths, compared to BLM protests against killings by police.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.

Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.

Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.

A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.

That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.

Yes. My family is Egyptian and the protests that started about police bruality, by the way, on National Police Day, shut down the city near Tahrir Square. For YEARS. And yet, as far as I could tell, most Americans were cheering them on. But let BLACK Americans protest police brutality? Unacceptable.

You are missing the point: it is not that police brutality should be condoned. It is that thousands of blacks being killed by other blacks should matter a lot more. If there were no killings by the police, you would still have a horrendous number of blacks being killed by other blacks. It has been going on for years and merely getting worse.

If black lives matter, then they matter no matter who takes those lives.

You don't focus only on cops who kill when they are a miniscule component of the total number of black lives lost. Just because another black does the killing does not make the carnage any less horrendous.

BLM has a distorted view of the lives that matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares about Chicago? Nobody.

Except when a white cop shoots a black guy ........... and then Chicago matters and BLM decides that it warrants protesting and inconveniencing shoppers.

Ah, so inconvenienced rich white shoppers is more of a big deal than a cop gunning down a teenager with 15 bullets and then lying about it.

A teenage black life is worth less than a white consumer being delayed 30 minutes while shopping.

That's basically what's being said here... And sadly it proves BLM's point.

Yes. My family is Egyptian and the protests that started about police bruality, by the way, on National Police Day, shut down the city near Tahrir Square. For YEARS. And yet, as far as I could tell, most Americans were cheering them on. But let BLACK Americans protest police brutality? Unacceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.

So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?

People have been talking about it forever. How old are you? Stop trying to deflect from an important issue.

B-S!

Where are the protests? Where are the liberal voices being raised at the senseless violence?

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? Don't you know how the media works? It carries the story of the day, and right now that's BLM. But a decades-ENDURING story has been urban crime.

Yes, seriously ....... you have a problem. What I am saying is that BLM that is going nuts over the unwarranted shooting of an individual in Chicago by a cop, but is unconcerned about the unwarranted killing of thousands of blacks.

And you don't see anything wrong with this? You do realize that protests on this issue could also provide the media attention that you mention.

Really? I remember protests galore when I worked at Baltimore City Jail in the 90s, and never saw much media coverage of them. And sermons in AA churches. And the Nation of Islam offering to patrol housing projects, unarmed, for free. The fact YOU don't hear about it is one of a million symptoms of institutional racism. Recently, however, social media and the internet have helped issues that the majority of this country don't care about actually be heard. And I, for one, am truly glad.

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Anonymous wrote:No one is ignoring the black on black crime. neither is right.

So where are the protests over the black on black crimes?

People have been talking about it forever. How old are you? Stop trying to deflect from an important issue.

B-S!

Where are the protests? Where are the liberal voices being raised at the senseless violence?

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with you? Don't you know how the media works? It carries the story of the day, and right now that's BLM. But a decades-ENDURING story has been urban crime.

Yes, seriously ....... you have a problem. What I am saying is that BLM that is going nuts over the unwarranted shooting of an individual in Chicago by a cop, but is unconcerned about the unwarranted killing of thousands of blacks.

And you don't see anything wrong with this? You do realize that protests on this issue could also provide the media attention that you mention.