Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:57
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
OMG, they are actually claiming they are too poor to let the immigrants settle permanently.
"Therefore, the reason is purely economic. Our brotherly relations with the Syrian people still prevailed, and we opened our doors to them as much we could. But our economy cannot tolerate hosting refugees who turn into residents."
It's the 7th wealthiest country in the world in GDP per capital....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Of course they can afford it. As I said, they just don't want to get stuck with the Syrians longterm. Just think of Saudi Arabia as the biggest gated community in the world. The riff raff are welcome to come in and fix the sink or mow the lawn but they better not think about buying a house.
Also, many Arabs feel that Saudi is too extreme -- the people fleeing are not interested in living in SA. I have also researched this, and found that SA and Iran does accept refugees, but they do not cite them as such.
Iran? Aside from the fact that Iran is not an Arab country, they support Assad.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:51
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Arabs don't help Arabs. Not in the abstract sense (If they don't know the family/the village etc). It's haut not a cultural thing for them yet.
Please explain the very large number of refugees Lebanon and Jordan have taken in. Egypt and Iraq also have taken in lesser numbers, but still many multiples of the 10,000 being discussed for the US.
Most of those are not monarchies. Jordan is the exception and the King has managed to survive despite being a minority in his country, but by a process of devolving power.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:48
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
They are nation states who actually care about what their children will inherit.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:45
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
OMG, they are actually claiming they are too poor to let the immigrants settle permanently.
"Therefore, the reason is purely economic. Our brotherly relations with the Syrian people still prevailed, and we opened our doors to them as much we could. But our economy cannot tolerate hosting refugees who turn into residents."
It's the 7th wealthiest country in the world in GDP per capital....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Isn't that what we say? We don't want the illegals because they're taking our jobs? And we're wealthier than SA per capita, aren't we?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Actually per capital we're 3 below Saudi Arabia. But yes, it's a poor excuse.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:45
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because Arabs don't help Arabs. Not in the abstract sense (If they don't know the family/the village etc). It's haut not a cultural thing for them yet.
Please explain the very large number of refugees Lebanon and Jordan have taken in. Egypt and Iraq also have taken in lesser numbers, but still many multiples of the 10,000 being discussed for the US.
It's great that they did. They are next door so may have more in common with the refugees and are closer so the Syrians can get there easier.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:44
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Not directly related to the stated question but addressing the implied question of why we should act when these countries refuse to...
If a man is lying injured on the road and four people walk by him ignoring his plight does that inoculate you, the fifth, from a moral obligation to help him?
If a man is lying injured on the road and four people walk by him ignoring his plight does that inoculate you, the fifth, from a moral obligation to help him?
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:34
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
OMG, they are actually claiming they are too poor to let the immigrants settle permanently.
"Therefore, the reason is purely economic. Our brotherly relations with the Syrian people still prevailed, and we opened our doors to them as much we could. But our economy cannot tolerate hosting refugees who turn into residents."
It's the 7th wealthiest country in the world in GDP per capital....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Of course they can afford it. As I said, they just don't want to get stuck with the Syrians longterm. Just think of Saudi Arabia as the biggest gated community in the world. The riff raff are welcome to come in and fix the sink or mow the lawn but they better not think about buying a house.
Also, many Arabs feel that Saudi is too extreme -- the people fleeing are not interested in living in SA. I have also researched this, and found that SA and Iran does accept refugees, but they do not cite them as such.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:32
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
OMG, they are actually claiming they are too poor to let the immigrants settle permanently.
"Therefore, the reason is purely economic. Our brotherly relations with the Syrian people still prevailed, and we opened our doors to them as much we could. But our economy cannot tolerate hosting refugees who turn into residents."
It's the 7th wealthiest country in the world in GDP per capital....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Isn't that what we say? We don't want the illegals because they're taking our jobs? And we're wealthier than SA per capita, aren't we?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
jsteele
11/18/2015 13:28
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
OMG, they are actually claiming they are too poor to let the immigrants settle permanently.
"Therefore, the reason is purely economic. Our brotherly relations with the Syrian people still prevailed, and we opened our doors to them as much we could. But our economy cannot tolerate hosting refugees who turn into residents."
It's the 7th wealthiest country in the world in GDP per capital....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Of course they can afford it. As I said, they just don't want to get stuck with the Syrians longterm. Just think of Saudi Arabia as the biggest gated community in the world. The riff raff are welcome to come in and fix the sink or mow the lawn but they better not think about buying a house.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:25
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
OMG, they are actually claiming they are too poor to let the immigrants settle permanently.
"Therefore, the reason is purely economic. Our brotherly relations with the Syrian people still prevailed, and we opened our doors to them as much we could. But our economy cannot tolerate hosting refugees who turn into residents."
It's the 7th wealthiest country in the world in GDP per capital....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:21
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Anonymous wrote:A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
I googled "Saudi Arabia refugees" and found many articles, some asking why the Gulf states are not taking in refugees, others saying that they are but by a different name. Here is an article about what Syrians want, which is not refugee status but to resettle:
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/views/news/middle-east/2015/09/15/Syrian-refugees-don-t-want-to-camp-in-Saudi-Arabia-They-want-a-future.html
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:19
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
A great thread - even more, why is the media NOT asking this question? Why are Western gov't NOT asking this question? If you are Arab, how easy is it to assimilate into the US, Canada, France, the UK, or perhaps another, closer Middle East country?
Some fantastic points were listed here.
Some fantastic points were listed here.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:19
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Just not socially or culturally evolved enough yet. They prefer violence and the other ME countries know it. Notice the ones taking them in are dealing with civil wars, factionalism, terrorist attacks too.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 13:15
Subject: Re:Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Interesting and will be looking for follow up.
It is true all the cited figures come from the UNHCR and include just refugees registered according to protocols. I know Jordan, which is shown as having a sizable share of them, claims a much higher number, perhaps from using a count that includes those that are not registered.
It is true all the cited figures come from the UNHCR and include just refugees registered according to protocols. I know Jordan, which is shown as having a sizable share of them, claims a much higher number, perhaps from using a count that includes those that are not registered.
Anonymous
11/18/2015 12:59
Subject: Why aren't wealthy Gulf states like Qatar and the UAE taking more refugees?
Saudi Arabia has taken in 2.5m refugees.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-refugees_b_8175924.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/anhvinh-doanvo/europes-crisis-refugees_b_8175924.html