Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:30
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
False equivalence. Ax is not a dialect or an accent. It is a mispronunciation of word, which reveals either a lack of education or some kind of learning disability. The white people who use the words you listed above are revealing a lack of education. Not sure how that aided your argument. All you're really saying is that there are also uneducated whites (or whites who are uneducated on the use of those words).
I grew up in the 1980s in a public school system that was 100% white. There were kids in my school who said ax instead of ask (if white kids in my lily-white town use it, how could it be a black dialect?). Those kids, more often than not, landed in the remedial program, and were certainly not the high performers when high school came around.
The true racists on this board are the apologists chalking up the use of ax as a black dialect, as if no one should expect blacks to be educated enough to know the difference. Sorry folks, but holding the black teacher to a lower standard is racist.
Pot meet kettle! You are the ignorant one ... educated yourself on the history of the pronunciation.
Nonsense. The Chaucer story is far from compelling.
+1. The bolded is absolutely not true. Google is your friend on this.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:28
Subject: Re:Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Yes, it makes you racist and little ignorant. Do you care that a teacher from Boston does not pronounce their r's? No. Because when white people don't pronounce things correctly it is cute when black people do it, you think they are uneducated.
Saying "ax" for ask is ignorant. Sorry.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:21
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
If she says 'ax' no. If that's how she spells 'ask' I would be more irritated.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:19
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
False equivalence. Ax is not a dialect or an accent. It is a mispronunciation of word, which reveals either a lack of education or some kind of learning disability. The white people who use the words you listed above are revealing a lack of education. Not sure how that aided your argument. All you're really saying is that there are also uneducated whites (or whites who are uneducated on the use of those words).
I grew up in the 1980s in a public school system that was 100% white. There were kids in my school who said ax instead of ask (if white kids in my lily-white town use it, how could it be a black dialect?). Those kids, more often than not, landed in the remedial program, and were certainly not the high performers when high school came around.
The true racists on this board are the apologists chalking up the use of ax as a black dialect, as if no one should expect blacks to be educated enough to know the difference. Sorry folks, but holding the black teacher to a lower standard is racist.
Pot meet kettle! You are the ignorant one ... educated yourself on the history of the pronunciation.
+1. The bolded is absolutely not true. Google is your friend on this.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:14
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
False equivalence. Ax is not a dialect or an accent. It is a mispronunciation of word, which reveals either a lack of education or some kind of learning disability. The white people who use the words you listed above are revealing a lack of education. Not sure how that aided your argument. All you're really saying is that there are also uneducated whites (or whites who are uneducated on the use of those words).
I grew up in the 1980s in a public school system that was 100% white. There were kids in my school who said ax instead of ask (if white kids in my lily-white town use it, how could it be a black dialect?). Those kids, more often than not, landed in the remedial program, and were certainly not the high performers when high school came around.
The true racists on this board are the apologists chalking up the use of ax as a black dialect, as if no one should expect blacks to be educated enough to know the difference. Sorry folks, but holding the black teacher to a lower standard is racist.
Pot meet kettle! You are the ignorant one ... educated yourself on the history of the pronunciation.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:13
Subject: Re:Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it makes you racist and little ignorant. Do you care that a teacher from Boston does not pronounce their r's? No. Because when white people don't pronounce things correctly it is cute when black people do it, you think they are uneducated.
Oh get over yourself. Accents aren't the same thing as speaking improperly and making spelling and grammatical errors. The fact that the OP even asked the question says that she's someone who is accepting. It's the Left eating the Left here.
Sorry your racist, most racist don't see that they are being racist.
I am sure you say cannidate, not candidate... or chomp at the bit instead of champ at the bit... or melk instead of milk, or warsh instead of wash or some other commonly mispronounced word... or you know people that commonly mispronounce something but don't equate it with being uneducated or ignorant, because they are white or Asian.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:11
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
False equivalence. Ax is not a dialect or an accent. It is a mispronunciation of word, which reveals either a lack of education or some kind of learning disability. The white people who use the words you listed above are revealing a lack of education. Not sure how that aided your argument. All you're really saying is that there are also uneducated whites (or whites who are uneducated on the use of those words).
I grew up in the 1980s in a public school system that was 100% white. There were kids in my school who said ax instead of ask (if white kids in my lily-white town use it, how could it be a black dialect?). Those kids, more often than not, landed in the remedial program, and were certainly not the high performers when high school came around.
The true racists on this board are the apologists chalking up the use of ax as a black dialect, as if no one should expect blacks to be educated enough to know the difference. Sorry folks, but holding the black teacher to a lower standard is racist.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:10
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Use it as a teaching moment.
How? If you tell your kid her teacher is a freaking illiterate, will the kid show the teacher proper respect?
Yes, this would bother me to no end. I live in the world where lots of people say "aks" and "ekscape," it is indicative of a problem. I don't care what this makes me.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 09:03
Subject: Re:Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, it makes you racist and little ignorant. Do you care that a teacher from Boston does not pronounce their r's? No. Because when white people don't pronounce things correctly it is cute when black people do it, you think they are uneducated.
Oh get over yourself. Accents aren't the same thing as speaking improperly and making spelling and grammatical errors. The fact that the OP even asked the question says that she's someone who is accepting. It's the Left eating the Left here.
+1.
And, a warning here.
If you turn Left, and Left, and Left...that's turning Right
Anonymous
11/12/2015 08:58
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
You're not sending your child there to get an education. You're sending your child there to prevent her from mingling with the maggotry.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 08:54
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
You idiot. "orientate" "irregardless" and "could care less" are all 100% grammatically correct.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 08:21
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:Should I be concerned that one of the home room teachers at my kid's Big 3 Elementary School class says "aks" instead of "ask"?
Yes OP, it does make you a racist. If you have to [/b]ask[b] the question, I'm pretty sure you already know the answer. Now if the teacher was from Pittsburgh and said Worshington instead of Washington, would you be concerned?
Anonymous
11/12/2015 08:19
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
Anonymous wrote:I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
Ditto on everything you wrote.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 08:15
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
I have heard rich, white folks use conversate, orientate, irregardless, could care less, etc etc.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
AX is just a dialect. May not be awesome, but no worse than "warsh" (Baltimore), Birfday" (my upper PA in laws say this), or whatever. Really. You KNOW your kid is not going to come home saying "ax," so the only reason it bothers you is because...actually, I don't know why.
Anonymous
11/12/2015 08:12
Subject: Does this make me classist or (shudder!) racist?
One of my kids preschool teachers would say "ax" instead of "ask". She also used the word "conversate". Both made me cringe but my kids have never made either error so I guess I'll have to let it go.