Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 12:39     Subject: Live in Inlaws

It is absolutely a cultural thing, and it is not exclusively Pakistani or Indian.

Americans won't get it, OP. They will continue to ramble about divorce. Think what bothers you specifically, then look for ways to mitigate the circumstances. I guess there are families that can't stand each other, period. But most can get along and adjust. Good luck to you!
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 12:30     Subject: Re:Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am Indian and have had both ILs and parents stay with us for extended periods of time. It can be a good experience but you have to have some strategies to manage well.

The trick is to make them responsible for things in the house as well as spend some time with them. My MIL and mom are responsible for the running the house. Mainly translates into cooking. I tackle the dishes and buy the groceries. Every morning, I will tell them my schedule and ask them what they need from me. In this way, they feel empowered, plus I benefit by not doing any cooking. I make sure that I have the cleaners come at least twice a week... so that I do not have to clean and neither do my DH. My MIL feels very upset when my DH has to do any cleaning, so, it is a worthwhile expense for me to have the cleaners and she also feels good that she has the manpower to keep the house running well.

I usually come home to clean house, happy kids, wonderful food. I praise them to all my friends, relatives and neighbors for whipping my house into shape. They need a lot of acknowledgement. I also make sure that DH takes MIL and FIL out for lunch, shopping, and other touristy things, without me, at least once in a fortnight. I insist on paying for all their shopping, mainly because I know that our culture puts a premium on such things. It shows to my ILs that we care for them and respect them. In return, my ILs will gift us with money. This makes them feel happy and in a position of power, because they are still looking after us (in their mind).

You have to figure out how to get them to do what you want to do, in a way that serves your needs as well as maintain good relationships. It is like walking on tightrope, but, in our culture, that is a necessary skill that women have to hone.

I still carry on all my usual activities (kids EC, socialization, gym) as usual. However, I try and include them as often as I can. I have hosted dinners at home and my ILs have met all my friends etc, and then retired to their rooms.

BTW - a big house with ample space also helps. It was horrible when we lived in an apartment and they visited.


WOW JUST WOW...You are the perfect daughter in law!!


Actually, I am not. However, they think I am. I just manage them very well. You have to figure out what they value and make them believe that they are getting that. People react to you on how you behave with them. They have no insight on what you are thinking. It is knowing basic human psychology and using that.

Maybe, I can do that also because in my heart of hearts I am not really that invested. I cannot be invested, you know! It is unnatural to take a full grown woman (me) and tell her that I should treat someone else's mom (MIL) as my own. That is so crazy. However, I am beyond polite and very solicitous to them. I treat them as I would treat my clients. I nod my head when they say something, I smile and ask them about their day, and I do not take offense to whatever they say to me, because it just does not matter. Also, maintaining peace and also fulfilling some cultural/social expectations is a good goal to strive for.

I have the same attitude at work too. I am pleasant with my completely irrational boss, because it is not worth the stress to make him see my point of view. When I need a person to have a heart to heart with, I have my DH and my close friends and family.

Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 11:51     Subject: Re:Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:My in-laws have stayed with us for 6 months. I know how you feel. It takes toll on the marriage and you.
Here is how I kept my sanity.
Rule 1: Know that it absolutely futile to whine to your husband. Because they just don't get it.
I absolutely stopped doing it. If I got mad - I said - "honey - I just need to vent about abc... And let you know how I feel.."
No action required from his side. And then let it go.

Rule 2: Set a good boundaries for yourself. Know that you will never be good enough. You are not their daughter.
So stop over compensating. It will get you nowhere.

Rule 3: There are only 2 people in your marriage. You and your husband. Keep it that way.
No use bringing MIL or FIL in your fights. Please do not fight about what MIL said it did with your husband. Your husband has no control over MIL.

Rule 4: Communicate openly and frankly with your husband. If you want your husband to do something specific, ask MIL something specific -
Ask very openly. Tell your husband that you love him and you will do this because you love him.
Pre-discuss deal breakers with him and have a plan between both of you.

Most importantly - OP - Be kind to yourself. Do things for you.

This is how I got thru my 6 months.
It is a lot of work. I am proud of myself. My husband has no idea how difficult it is.


Is this a troll or mother in law writing?
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 11:32     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Lots of good suggestions here PP, but doesn't your MIL complain about all the cooking she has to do? Mine cooks a bit when she visits but prattles on about how old she is to do so much cooking (she's 65). She also tells my 4 year old daughter that she has to be trained to cook since she's too old to do it anymore and someone has to take care of the family!
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:59     Subject: Re:Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:I am Indian and have had both ILs and parents stay with us for extended periods of time. It can be a good experience but you have to have some strategies to manage well.

The trick is to make them responsible for things in the house as well as spend some time with them. My MIL and mom are responsible for the running the house. Mainly translates into cooking. I tackle the dishes and buy the groceries. Every morning, I will tell them my schedule and ask them what they need from me. In this way, they feel empowered, plus I benefit by not doing any cooking. I make sure that I have the cleaners come at least twice a week... so that I do not have to clean and neither do my DH. My MIL feels very upset when my DH has to do any cleaning, so, it is a worthwhile expense for me to have the cleaners and she also feels good that she has the manpower to keep the house running well.

I usually come home to clean house, happy kids, wonderful food. I praise them to all my friends, relatives and neighbors for whipping my house into shape. They need a lot of acknowledgement. I also make sure that DH takes MIL and FIL out for lunch, shopping, and other touristy things, without me, at least once in a fortnight. I insist on paying for all their shopping, mainly because I know that our culture puts a premium on such things. It shows to my ILs that we care for them and respect them. In return, my ILs will gift us with money. This makes them feel happy and in a position of power, because they are still looking after us (in their mind).

You have to figure out how to get them to do what you want to do, in a way that serves your needs as well as maintain good relationships. It is like walking on tightrope, but, in our culture, that is a necessary skill that women have to hone.

I still carry on all my usual activities (kids EC, socialization, gym) as usual. However, I try and include them as often as I can. I have hosted dinners at home and my ILs have met all my friends etc, and then retired to their rooms.

BTW - a big house with ample space also helps. It was horrible when we lived in an apartment and they visited.


WOW JUST WOW...You are the perfect daughter in law!!
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:50     Subject: Re:Live in Inlaws

I am Indian and have had both ILs and parents stay with us for extended periods of time. It can be a good experience but you have to have some strategies to manage well.

The trick is to make them responsible for things in the house as well as spend some time with them. My MIL and mom are responsible for the running the house. Mainly translates into cooking. I tackle the dishes and buy the groceries. Every morning, I will tell them my schedule and ask them what they need from me. In this way, they feel empowered, plus I benefit by not doing any cooking. I make sure that I have the cleaners come at least twice a week... so that I do not have to clean and neither do my DH. My MIL feels very upset when my DH has to do any cleaning, so, it is a worthwhile expense for me to have the cleaners and she also feels good that she has the manpower to keep the house running well.

I usually come home to clean house, happy kids, wonderful food. I praise them to all my friends, relatives and neighbors for whipping my house into shape. They need a lot of acknowledgement. I also make sure that DH takes MIL and FIL out for lunch, shopping, and other touristy things, without me, at least once in a fortnight. I insist on paying for all their shopping, mainly because I know that our culture puts a premium on such things. It shows to my ILs that we care for them and respect them. In return, my ILs will gift us with money. This makes them feel happy and in a position of power, because they are still looking after us (in their mind).

You have to figure out how to get them to do what you want to do, in a way that serves your needs as well as maintain good relationships. It is like walking on tightrope, but, in our culture, that is a necessary skill that women have to hone.

I still carry on all my usual activities (kids EC, socialization, gym) as usual. However, I try and include them as often as I can. I have hosted dinners at home and my ILs have met all my friends etc, and then retired to their rooms.

BTW - a big house with ample space also helps. It was horrible when we lived in an apartment and they visited.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:20     Subject: Re:Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:My in-laws have stayed with us for 6 months. I know how you feel. It takes toll on the marriage and you.
Here is how I kept my sanity.
Rule 1: Know that it absolutely futile to whine to your husband. Because they just don't get it.
I absolutely stopped doing it. If I got mad - I said - "honey - I just need to vent about abc... And let you know how I feel.."
No action required from his side. And then let it go.

Rule 2: Set a good boundaries for yourself. Know that you will never be good enough. You are not their daughter.
So stop over compensating. It will get you nowhere.

Rule 3: There are only 2 people in your marriage. You and your husband. Keep it that way.
No use bringing MIL or FIL in your fights. Please do not fight about what MIL said it did with your husband. Your husband has no control over MIL.

Rule 4: Communicate openly and frankly with your husband. If you want your husband to do something specific, ask MIL something specific -
Ask very openly. Tell your husband that you love him and you will do this because you love him.
Pre-discuss deal breakers with him and have a plan between both of you.

Most importantly - OP - Be kind to yourself. Do things for you.

This is how I got thru my 6 months.
It is a lot of work. I am proud of myself. My husband has no idea how difficult it is.


Op here: Thanks for the advice. Its good that you survived...First few months went absolutely fine...But now I have started feeling depressed. I love my husband but cannot take this anymore. And thinking of them coming back in next few months makes me more depressed. Sometimes I just feel I wish it was just a bad dream...I wake up and they are gone.
Also, they are not evil or anything but very nosey in everything we do plus the never ending advices from MIL........drives me crazy
In my culture, if I vent too much, its considered bad and that I am not a family girl and do not have good upbringing. I would also be considered as family breaker...
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:20     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Can you help them connect to other Pakistani elderly in the area so that they have a social network while they are in the United States? If they have time to complain they aren't busy enough .
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:14     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Sorry OP. I don't have any solutions for you. I don't know how you put up with it. If I were you I would either build an inlaw suite in the back or get divorced. It's too much pressure on your own marriage to have someone 24/7 living with you.

I have a good friend who's Chinese and she's very successful, but refuses to buy her own house because her parents expect to move in when she does so. I doubt I would have married someone if I knew the inlaws would be moving in.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:09     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you put them to work? Ask them to pitch in/"do you mind doing xyz, it would be soo helpful!" Then either you have help or they don't like it and they decide not to stay so long...or at all.

My MIL lives with us, and is also from another culture (not Asian), but she's enormously helpful. I don't know how we would do it without her. I don't know how other people do it without the so-called village. Not that she doesn't drive me crazy sometimes; she most certainly does. But she's SO helpful I can't really complain too much. Sometimes I suspect that's her plan, ha.


New Poster. My Asian MIL is quite helpful when she stays with us. She helps with cooking and watches the kids if needed. I don't ask her to do these things but she does it herself. However, afterwards she will go on and on about how she was able to work, cook elaborate meals, and raise 2 successful children without any help from her inlaws as they lived in India (with their oldest son). So I'd rather not take any of her help since she has this kind of attitude towards it.


OP here: Like I said earlier, its the same for me...I rather do all the stuff instead of them bragging about it...
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 10:02     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:Can you put them to work? Ask them to pitch in/"do you mind doing xyz, it would be soo helpful!" Then either you have help or they don't like it and they decide not to stay so long...or at all.

My MIL lives with us, and is also from another culture (not Asian), but she's enormously helpful. I don't know how we would do it without her. I don't know how other people do it without the so-called village. Not that she doesn't drive me crazy sometimes; she most certainly does. But she's SO helpful I can't really complain too much. Sometimes I suspect that's her plan, ha.


New Poster. My Asian MIL is quite helpful when she stays with us. She helps with cooking and watches the kids if needed. I don't ask her to do these things but she does it herself. However, afterwards she will go on and on about how she was able to work, cook elaborate meals, and raise 2 successful children without any help from her inlaws as they lived in India (with their oldest son). So I'd rather not take any of her help since she has this kind of attitude towards it.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 09:56     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Can you put them to work? Ask them to pitch in/"do you mind doing xyz, it would be soo helpful!" Then either you have help or they don't like it and they decide not to stay so long...or at all.

My MIL lives with us, and is also from another culture (not Asian), but she's enormously helpful. I don't know how we would do it without her. I don't know how other people do it without the so-called village. Not that she doesn't drive me crazy sometimes; she most certainly does. But she's SO helpful I can't really complain too much. Sometimes I suspect that's her plan, ha.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 09:43     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the 'it's cultural' statement I was wondering are all Indian/Pakistani women expected to have their inlaws live with them eventually?

Does this also apply for Indian/Pakistani- Americans so just more recent immigrants?


I think its easier if I am back in the country...Most of the families are nuclear but again depends...In laws will want to stay with you even if you are back in the country. But atleast they have more options such as relatives, friends etc.
Here they are with us all the time since we don't have any family or friends their age. MIL keeps an eye on what am I doing all the time. She keeps on commenting. I behave as if I have not heard her but internally it drives me crazy....
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 09:43     Subject: Live in Inlaws

I feel your pain. Before kids, I would absolutely stay away until I knew the MIL had gone to her bedroom before coming home. The sad thing is that my DH told me that she likes to go through our bedroom when we are not home under the farce that she is cleaning up. Can you imagine how uncomfortable that is? On top of all that she is not hygienic, even her doctor has told he she needs to improve as she keeps getting sick from not cleaning herself well after using the bathroom. I have seen her cooking, running to the bathroom with the bathroom door open, and get back to cooking without washing her hands... ugh....I refuse to eat anything she has touched and will not allow my children to either. So I completely feel your pain since DH just says that is the way she is.
Anonymous
Post 11/10/2015 09:40     Subject: Live in Inlaws

Anonymous wrote:Regarding the 'it's cultural' statement I was wondering are all Indian/Pakistani women expected to have their inlaws live with them eventually?

Does this also apply for Indian/Pakistani- Americans so just more recent immigrants?


Or, not so.