Carson's way past Palin now. I'm no fan but I don't recall her making up admission to any service academy!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .



On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

I can't speak for anyone else on this thread, but yes I'm frightened at the thought of anyone that unqualified, unengaged, and ill-informed being considered seriously for one of the most important, consequential, and difficult jobs in the world. That seems like a rational response to me.

How do you define "unengaged?"

If you mean that he has not served in congress as our President once did, I must ask: have you seen congress' collective approval ratings over the past 10 years? I'm not sure service in congress is a favorable factor for candidates any more.

By engaged, I mean someone who pays attention to current events and world affairs. For example, the fact that, after all of the publicity and attention given to the debt ceiling debates for the past few years, he still has no idea what it is troubles me. I think it's perfectly fine, if not preferable, for someone other than a member of Congress to run for President, but I would like him or her to take the responsibilities that would come with it seriously. If you really want that job, you should do a lot of homework to prepare yourself for it. I think we've all seen the damage that can happen with the president has to rely on advisors because he doesn't know enough himself. That's a dangerous position to be in no matter what party you belong to. All presidents need advisors, but they should know enough to understand the issues and be able to make informed, independent decisions. It's not an entry level job and it scares me that some voters seem to think it is.

It turns out he was actually not offered a full scholarship to West Point:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/ben-carson-west-point-215598

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .

On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

Frightened? Where did you get that?

It's just the standard goober response to any critique of the current wingnut flavor of the moment.

I don't understand how anyone can take him seriously as a presidential candidate.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/ben-carson-controversial-quotes-214614

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .



On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

I can't speak for anyone else on this thread, but yes I'm frightened at the thought of anyone that unqualified, unengaged, and ill-informed being considered seriously for one of the most important, consequential, and difficult jobs in the world. That seems like a rational response to me.

How do you define "unengaged?"

If you mean that he has not served in congress as our President once did, I must ask: have you seen congress' collective approval ratings over the past 10 years? I'm not sure service in congress is a favorable factor for candidates any more.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .



On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

I can't speak for anyone else on this thread, but yes I'm frightened at the thought of anyone that unqualified, unengaged, and ill-informed being considered seriously for one of the most important, consequential, and difficult jobs in the world. That seems like a rational response to me.

I still don't believe that Obama never wrote anything while he was on the law review. That seems like a lie to me.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .

On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

Frightened? Where did you get that?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .



On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

I am not frightened of Carson. I'm frightened that so many people in our country are stupid enough to support him.

Anonymous wrote:Carson made up a whole set of violent incidents for his autobiography so that he could sell a "sinner redeemed" narrative to a Christian audience. No one can confirm the incidents happened. He won't offer any evidence that the incidents happened. His classmates remember him as quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, not some violent hellion.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/05/politics/ben-carson-2016-childhood-violence/index.html

He made stuff up for his book? Terrible. Good thing Hillary didn't make any ridiculously false claims, like being penniless when she was kicked out of the White House or how she dodged bullets getting off the plane in Sarejevo. Now about her secret unsecured server . . .



On another note, you sure seemed frightened of Carson; why exactly is that?!

Wow, surprised he's not a Democrat! They've cornered the market on lying!

He has good reason to think his followers are gullible. Have you read the other Carson threads. His followers defend his epic level of ignorance in a really inexplicable way. The fact that he is skilled in one specific area that has nothing to do with governing is enough for them. The fact that he's a total nutter doesn't slow them down a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Can you prove otherwise? If not, this is a hit piece and nothing more. How many people came forward saying Bill Clinton sexually attacked them? Many. And y'all say it isn't so and they are all lying.

How is this different? Because it's Carson, that's why. Interesting how you are so SO willing to believe Bill despite multiple accounts, some dating back to his Oxford days...

if no one in his entire middle school can recall him lacerating a kid with a lock then he has a problem. A 3 inch gash is pretty memorable.

Not just memorable. A three-inch laceration left as the result of having been hit with a "lock" would have been legendary in the neighborhood and most likely would have resulted in an arrest and criminal charges. What happened to this boy with a distinctive scar? Did Carson ever seen him out to make amends and ask for forgiveness? Carson surely knows his name, fight?

He must think those who buy and read his books are quite gullible. Memories of a smart teenager living on a tree-lined street with tidy middle-class homes don't mesh with claims of trying to stab someone in a dispute over a song being played on a little transistor radio.

Anonymous wrote:Can you prove otherwise? If not, this is a hit piece and nothing more. How many people came forward saying Bill Clinton sexually attacked them? Many. And y'all say it isn't so and they are all lying.

How is this different? Because it's Carson, that's why. Interesting how you are so SO willing to believe Bill despite multiple accounts, some dating back to his Oxford days...

This is so typical of Conservatives. You try telling them that a young black kid was quiet and bookish and obedient to authority, and they insist that he was a thug who probably tried to stab someone.