If they are profoundly gifted, they could take classes early at a community college or online.

NOVA Private schools "teach to the middle" --- "gifted students" get bored fast and transfer to the VERY crowded FCPS GT program...

Anonymous wrote:11:16 again. I do agree, however, that there are plenty of other ranges of giftedness, and I understand those children will have particular schooling needs. So I don't want to discourage people from pursuing the resources they need. I just don't think using labels like "profoundly gifted" helps advance the discussion.

Well how do you want to differentiate them, then? Rec league gifted and travel league gifted?

Anonymous wrote:E. The odds of one of those PG people, or parents of a PG child, finding their way to DCUM are even smaller.

As a result, I am somewhat skeptical of all the people on DCUM who claim PG.

If you had a child with a rare profile, wouldn't you be searching for all the online resources you could find?

Anonymous wrote:C. Given A and B, the odds are that it would take 28 years for one single PG student to appear in the greater DC area.

D. Even if we assume the greater DC area is some hothouse of giftedness, it's extremely unlikely there's more than one PG student living in the DC area at this time. Indeed, it's unlikely there are more than 10 PG people of any age in the greater DC area.

Believe it or not, they do exist in this area.

Anonymous wrote:NP, with a question about "profoundly gifted."

A. I just did some quick searching, and I see from Hoagies that researchers believe PG (180+ IQ) children occur at a rate of about 1-in-1.1 million.

I think you're quoting from here (http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/underserved.htm)--and just following the table giving that number is this statement: "Several researchers over the last 70 years have proposed that the number of children who score in the extremely high ranges of IQ exceeds the theoretical expectations derived from the normal curve (Terman, 1925; Burt, 1968; Silverman, 1989; Gross, 1993)." So there's a difference between hypothetical and actual frequency.

In addition, another link on Hoagies gives more detail about the different levels of giftedness. (http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/highly_profoundly.htm). The 180+ cited in the link above is for a different test (Stanford-Binet L-M). Full-scare IQ scores of 152-160 on the WISC-IV and WPSSI-III (very common tests around here) are score as profoundly gifted.

Show us the scores OP....

11:16 again. I do agree, however, that there are plenty of other ranges of giftedness, and I understand those children will have particular schooling needs. So I don't want to discourage people from pursuing the resources they need. I just don't think using labels like "profoundly gifted" helps advance the discussion.

NP, with a question about "profoundly gifted."

A. I just did some quick searching, and I see from Hoagies that researchers believe PG (180+ IQ) children occur at a rate of about 1-in-1.1 million.

B. There are about 385,000 students currently enrolled in all of FCPS, MCPS, and DCPS. Let's boost that number by another 115,000 to account for all the charter students in DC, all the private school students, and other smaller school districts in the area. That totals about 500,000 students K-12 in the greater DC area.

C. Given A and B, the odds are that it would take 28 years for one single PG student to appear in the greater DC area.

D. Even if we assume the greater DC area is some hothouse of giftedness, it's extremely unlikely there's more than one PG student living in the DC area at this time. Indeed, it's unlikely there are more than 10 PG people of any age in the greater DC area.

E. The odds of one of those PG people, or parents of a PG child, finding their way to DCUM are even smaller.

As a result, I am somewhat skeptical of all the people on DCUM who claim PG.

My first question is that even a profoundly gifted child is still a child, and a unique individual. So asking what school is best for a profoundly gifted child is kind of like asking what school is best for a child who is shy. Without details about age, strengths, weaknesses, interests, academic motivation, social preferences, etc, etc, there is no way to tell what schools might work. Some kids in that category are incredibly motivated to accelerate in academics, others prefer depth. Some love math but are meh in writing, others are the opposite. And if it really was OP who mentioned the IEP, it is 10 times more complicated, because a profoundly gifted child with a learning disability has an even more unique set of needs.

I also agree TJ for high school.

Anonymous wrote:My thought is if your child had actually been identified as "profoundly gifted" you would have been provided plenty of information about resources by the screener.

Except that screeners don't see many profoundly gifted kids, because they are a tiny percentage of the population. And schools that specialize in profoundly gifted kids are few, because the kids are so rare.

I agree that you should apply to Davidson Young Scholars and get information from those parents from this area.

OP how old is your profoundly gifted child?

I don't think any of us doubt that profoundly gifted is an actual category, but we are doubting that OP has a definitive assessment saying her child falls into that category.

^^^BTW, I know he is "profoundly gifted" because he is also has an IEP and the testing is part of the IEP process. It is a category on the psychological assessment.