Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:46
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.
Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, but not everyone is entitled to free access to a mainstream classroom.
Damn straight they are. Parents often beg for different settings and it's all they get. The school always goes with the "least restrictive environment," b/c it's the least expensive.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:44
Subject: K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Goodness, there was a child like this years ago in my son's K class. He had a classroom aide, and was relatively calm in class, but would act unpredictably in corridors, at recess and pick-up time. This was MCPS. I requested that DS not be placed in the same classroom with him the year after and that was basically all I could do. The request was honored, BTW. He has outwardly calmed down somewhat now, but from a few disturbing incidents that have continued to happen, I am persuaded that he is truly psychotic. The only child I have ever met who seems to enjoy hurting others.
Or, a kid who gets really overwhelmed in crowded and unstructured situations like corridors, recess, and pick up. Jesus, lady.
I don't want to relate the disturbing incidents that happened recently because they happened to my younger daughter and they are particular enough to out me. My children's school is an inclusive one, and I have volunteered there for years - I see kids of all stripes and they all have a large solid core of human goodness.
Not this one.
So don't "Jesus, lady" me.
Not the PP, but I'll "Jesus, lady" you too.
Most children are "truly psychotic." These serious mental illnesses usually present from teenage years onward:
http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/mental-health-psychotic-disorders
Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:35
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.
No parent bashing. The parent has legitimate concerns about their child's safety in the classroom. First talk with teacher about concerns. Then talk with principal about concerns. Start there and see, what their response is. If you are still not satisfied, take it up the chain of command to head of schools, super, etc. Children should feel safe in classroom.
I'm not "parent bashing;" otherwise I'd have made fun of her precious "snowflake."
FAPE is the law: http://www2.ed.gov/about/offices/list/ocr/docs/edlite-FAPE504.html
Children should feel safe in the classroom, but it's not a legal requirement. Allowing a kid access to an education is.
Being attacked in this alleged way is never acceptable.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:31
Subject: K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Can the child's parents be held liable? That also night speed up getting them to consent not having the kid in a mainstream classroom.
Potential liability can be extended in good faith as far as it can reasonably go consistent with precedent and ethical rules. People tend to lee sight of this, though: assault is assault is assault. If my kid is physically harmed or threatened within the definition, by anyone, law enforcement will be contacted and civil remedies pursued. Basically, like the attorney on the Sopranos once said, prepare to be torted into the poorhouse.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:29
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.
No parent bashing. The parent has legitimate concerns about their child's safety in the classroom. First talk with teacher about concerns. Then talk with principal about concerns. Start there and see, what their response is. If you are still not satisfied, take it up the chain of command to head of schools, super, etc. Children should feel safe in classroom.
I agree - sounds like kid needs to be removed - from the class (like special ed instruction) or from the school. I would take it all the way.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:25
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I hope this isn't Arlington.
Not the OP, but I have a similar situation in my DC's k class. I am new to Arlington. Tell me why you hope it isn't arlington. I am truly clueless and maybe your answer will help me figure out why my efforts to protect DC have fallen on deaf ears.
I hope it's not Arlington because my kid might be starting school there next year if we can't move out in time (for many reasons). I am finding the whole school options thing to be such a headache and I don't need to add to my headache. That's all.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 23:19
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:I hope this isn't Arlington.
Not the OP, but I have a similar situation in my DC's k class. I am new to Arlington. Tell me why you hope it isn't arlington. I am truly clueless and maybe your answer will help me figure out why my efforts to protect DC have fallen on deaf ears.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:45
Subject: K student Out of Control
Can the child's parents be held liable? That also night speed up getting them to consent not having the kid in a mainstream classroom.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:36
Subject: K student Out of Control
I just reread the post:
"frequently hits, pushes kids, draws blood, leaves marks"
The school is not meeting its legal requirements. If your child has been assaulted, can you call the police and get an order of protection? Maybe you can't, but if so, that might speed things up as the school might be forced to respond faster.
"frequently hits, pushes kids, draws blood, leaves marks"
The school is not meeting its legal requirements. If your child has been assaulted, can you call the police and get an order of protection? Maybe you can't, but if so, that might speed things up as the school might be forced to respond faster.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:31
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.
Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, but not everyone is entitled to free access to a mainstream classroom.
I imagine it can take a very long time to move a child out of the mainstream class if the parents don't consent.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:23
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
I hope this isn't Arlington.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:21
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
You lawyer up and threaten to sue. For the millionth f*** time: it is the ONLY way to get a school's attention. Sounds like an alleged monster. Attack my kid and I will rain holy hell on those who did not protect her.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:18
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
PP- I meant "wasn't allowed."
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:17
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
I used to work as a one-on-one and I was allowed to physically do anything to the student. I learned what his triggers were and tried to make sure he avoided them but sometimes he became out of control and we had to call the guidance counselor or an administrator.
Anonymous
10/24/2015 22:16
Subject: Re:K student Out of Control
Anonymous wrote:Pay for private, OP. Everyone is legally entitled to free access to education, no matter how much you don't like them.
Everyone in public school is entitled to a safe place to learn.