Anonymous
Post 10/20/2015 12:24     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
They are called Pop quizzes. That happened a lot when we were growing up in the 80s-90s. Many of these will lead up to a final big test at the end of the school year or midterm. It helps the kids keep up with the material on a weekly basis. If you consistently fail the pop quizzes, you better study up cause you know you will not pass the final exam.

Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 18:55     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
If your child is LD, then 2 days could be too short. Otherwise 2 days is fine for 4th grade content.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 18:37     Subject: Re:Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
I once taught at a school with a 1 week notice policy. At first I thought it was ridiculous, but considering the amount of time students spend in extra curricular activities, I now think it is a decent idea.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 17:52     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is for an end of unit 4th grade test, and it's the third time it's happened this year. This just doesn't seem like enough time for the kids to study - or am I wrong?
They should't have to "study" for a test. That isn't how education works anymore. You learn and retain the information so it can be applied in many different way. If you know the content then you don't have to "study" for it. I could take a test in my field tomorrow and not have to study for it because I know the content area.



So, you've never studied for a test?
I was educated under Common Core. Children today are. I was taught rote memorization. If your child is being taught to memorize and repeat facts rather than truly understand the content then you have a bigger problem than two days notice.
Meant to sat *was NOT*
Ugh! Nevermind. Tired!
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 17:52     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is for an end of unit 4th grade test, and it's the third time it's happened this year. This just doesn't seem like enough time for the kids to study - or am I wrong?
They should't have to "study" for a test. That isn't how education works anymore. You learn and retain the information so it can be applied in many different way. If you know the content then you don't have to "study" for it. I could take a test in my field tomorrow and not have to study for it because I know the content area.



So, you've never studied for a test?
I was educated under Common Core. Children today are. I was taught rote memorization. If your child is being taught to memorize and repeat facts rather than truly understand the content then you have a bigger problem than two days notice.
Meant to sat *was NOT*
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 17:51     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is for an end of unit 4th grade test, and it's the third time it's happened this year. This just doesn't seem like enough time for the kids to study - or am I wrong?
They should't have to "study" for a test. That isn't how education works anymore. You learn and retain the information so it can be applied in many different way. If you know the content then you don't have to "study" for it. I could take a test in my field tomorrow and not have to study for it because I know the content area.



So, you've never studied for a test?
I was educated under Common Core. Children today are. I was taught rote memorization. If your child is being taught to memorize and repeat facts rather than truly understand the content then you have a bigger problem than two days notice.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 16:10     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:Some schools have a policy about the number of days notice you must give for tests.


+1

I posted above that my school requires a two day notice for tests. We have one day's notice for quizzes. Shorter assessments such as graded entrance tickets, exit cards, quick writes, question of the day, etc. require no advance notice.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 16:05     Subject: Re:Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, perhaps you could take this an opportunity to teach your child some stronger study skills. Study skills shouldn't just be about cramming for a test in the last few days, it should focus on mastery of the material so she has a better understanding as new material builds on earlier material later in the unit. Teach her how to review material regularly, ask questions as soon as she becomes aware she's uncertain about something, etc. If she gets into a good routine with this, two days' notice before a test shouldn't be a big deal because her need to do extra studying should truly be minimal.


I pretty much agree with this, however I'm sort of confused because I have posted a previous post asking "How much does your 4th grader study?" And the responses were pretty much none. It seems to me that at her school they either have to study daily to keep on top of everything or else cram before a test. This doesn't seem to be the situation among most other posters here. Oh, and my daughter has an iq of 130 which I only mention because I'm sure people are assuming she's just dim.


OP, intelligence and skills are not the same. Your DD may be extremely bright but be unable so far to do what PP specified. I teach many twice exceptional students who have high IQs and zero study skills.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 14:17     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Some schools have a policy about the number of days notice you must give for tests.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 14:16     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
If it were me, I would email the teacher and request more warning before a test including some weekend time. Depending on which two days the notice period is, there may not be extra time for studying. She should give you more advance warning.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 10:47     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:If this is a problem, your child needs to be keeping up with the material more as it is taught. Maybe study some every night instead of cramming. [/b]You are well on the path to being a helicopter mom whose child will never grow up if you always blame the teacher and not realize that one of the most important skills to learn as a child is how to adapt to varying expectations. [b]Do not shelter her, help her learn to deal with the system. Now she knows. There will not be much warning, so she must keep up-to-date on the information.



Oh please. Why are people so quick to through out the "helicopter mom" label? I have not said one word to the teacher. I haven't even said anything to my child. It just seems a little sudden to me and I'm wondering what others think. Isn't that what forums are for?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 10:28     Subject: Re:Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:OP, perhaps you could take this an opportunity to teach your child some stronger study skills. Study skills shouldn't just be about cramming for a test in the last few days, it should focus on mastery of the material so she has a better understanding as new material builds on earlier material later in the unit. Teach her how to review material regularly, ask questions as soon as she becomes aware she's uncertain about something, etc. If she gets into a good routine with this, two days' notice before a test shouldn't be a big deal because her need to do extra studying should truly be minimal.


I pretty much agree with this, however I'm sort of confused because I have posted a previous post asking "How much does your 4th grader study?" And the responses were pretty much none. It seems to me that at her school they either have to study daily to keep on top of everything or else cram before a test. This doesn't seem to be the situation among most other posters here. Oh, and my daughter has an iq of 130 which I only mention because I'm sure people are assuming she's just dim.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 09:51     Subject: Re:Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
OP, perhaps you could take this an opportunity to teach your child some stronger study skills. Study skills shouldn't just be about cramming for a test in the last few days, it should focus on mastery of the material so she has a better understanding as new material builds on earlier material later in the unit. Teach her how to review material regularly, ask questions as soon as she becomes aware she's uncertain about something, etc. If she gets into a good routine with this, two days' notice before a test shouldn't be a big deal because her need to do extra studying should truly be minimal.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 09:46     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your 4th grader has a social studies test with lots of facts she needs to regurgitate then your problems shouldn't be with the timing of the test.


Agreed. The focus in SS these days is on demonstrating skills not memorization. There might be something to analyze that requires drawing on background knowledge, but the entire test should not be questions about who, what, when, and, where.



What state are you in?
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2015 08:51     Subject: Should a teacher give more than a two day notice for a test?
If this is a problem, your child needs to be keeping up with the material more as it is taught. Maybe study some every night instead of cramming. You are well on the path to being a helicopter mom whose child will never grow up if you always blame the teacher and not realize that one of the most important skills to learn as a child is how to adapt to varying expectations. Do not shelter her, help her learn to deal with the system. Now she knows. There will not be much warning, so she must keep up-to-date on the information.