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Anonymous wrote:If my child threw food as part of a food fight and was told to clean it up and was given appropriate tools to do it (i.e. mop, brooms) I would have no problem with it.

But they were not given the tools. They were crawling on hands and knees. Therein lies the rub.

But if its cool for you all- then just sit back. I will look for your champion responses when its white kids on a video.

Are you kidding me? So, who should clean up their mess? The custodial crew? Black, white, green, whatever - I believe children should suffer the consequences of their disrespectful behavior otherwise they grow up to be rude and entitled adults.

Anonymous wrote:The video showed the children on their hands and knees cleaning the cafeteria floor. Even custodians are provided heavy-duty gloves for cleaning. This action is clearly a health hazard for the children and also an example of corporal punishment. Other students also claim that the teacher in question pinched and hit them.

Anyone who thinks that this type of corrective punishment is acceptable should not have children of their own.

"Health hazard" are you fucking kidding? they are wiping a floor not licking a petri dish full of strep. This is excellent corrective punishment. I would bet money the kids won't be starting a food fight anytime soon Either the schools and parents teach actions and consequences (even if those consequences are, gasp, HARD) or the juvenile courts will teach them. Your choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Nope. I just think it's sad. And breaks my heart for kids. I teach in DCPS and would be outraged to see this.

But apparently- it's cool.

NP. You're a nut job OP.

And this why we are raising a nation of useless kids. You make the mess, you clean it up. Hell, I had my toddler using baby wipes to clean paint up off the floor. She was sad or damaged, she gets that actions have consequences.

I think it is just fine as well and would thank the school for teaching my child a lesson.

When I clean my kitchen I sometimes have to get down on my hands and knees to get a really messy spot cleaned up or to get something I can't reach with a broom. How is it humiliating to be on your hands and knees? Have you ever cleaned your own house? Do you think it is humiliating to clean in general?

Personally, I wouldn't mind if public schools in this area applied the "board of education", as schools do in Texas.

Anonymous wrote:So having kids crawl around on the floor hands/knees is legit with you all?

If your kids were in this video you would be ok with it?

If they trashed the cafeteria, I would be absolutely OK with it. The kids should have to clean up their mess.

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Anonymous wrote:This looks like shame and humiliation, not cleaning up.

Agreed - cleaning up is broom and mop, not hands and knees. Its ok for them to clean up, not on hands and knees. This is not corporal punishment.

You think a school has enough brooms and mops for an entire classroom of kids?

This was absolutely fine, IMO. Even if it was my kid, I would find it absolutely fine.

Anonymous wrote:The video showed the children on their hands and knees cleaning the cafeteria floor. Even custodians are provided heavy-duty gloves for cleaning. This action is clearly a health hazard for the children and also an example of corporal punishment. Other students also claim that the teacher in question pinched and hit them.

Anyone who thinks that this type of corrective punishment is acceptable should not have children of their own.

If you think that these children were subjected to "corporal punishment," please expect your children to become involved in the criminal justice system. Apparently, your children are not being disciplined in your home. Children that don't have appropriate boundaries set at home, tend to misbehave outside the home. We all have to answer to someone, and in this case, it sounds as if your children will be answering to law enforcement (because it sounds as if they're not answering to you). Good luck with that OP.

Anonymous wrote:So having kids crawl around on the floor hands/knees is legit with you all?

If your kids were in this video you would be ok with it?

YES! I would be handing the sponge and bucket over to my DS. Kids need to learn the consequences of their actions.

Agreed kids should have been given mops and brooms but when I clean my floor at home, I usually end up on my hands and knees to wipe the floor in addition to sweeping. While the punishment may have not been well executed, it was a natural consequence.

Were they made to sing "It's a hard knock life"?

The video showed the children on their hands and knees cleaning the cafeteria floor. Even custodians are provided heavy-duty gloves for cleaning. This action is clearly a health hazard for the children and also an example of corporal punishment. Other students also claim that the teacher in question pinched and hit them.

Anyone who thinks that this type of corrective punishment is acceptable should not have children of their own.

Anonymous wrote:This looks like shame and humiliation, not cleaning up.

Agreed - cleaning up is broom and mop, not hands and knees. Its ok for them to clean up, not on hands and knees. This is not corporal punishment.

This looks like shame and humiliation, not cleaning up.

I don't know if what the kids are doing is corporal punishment exactly, but it's certainly not appropriate for children to be crawling around on the cafeteria floor on their hands and knees. If the consequence was to stay in from recess and clean the cafeteria, they should have the tools -- brooms, mops-- to do it. Unfortunately, it does not surprise me at all that it happened at Tyler. I know the school well, and I have many stories.