Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ben R was never convicted of anything was he? Maybe it was determined that there was no criminal wrong doing on his part?
I honestly have not followed that story - At All. But of course rape is never, ever acceptable and it is always a crime. Although an accusation is not the same thing as a conviction. People forget that.
The accusers agreed to a monetary settlement instead of pressing charges a'la Kobe Bryant.
Oh, you can pay money to get out of criminal charges? That is good to know!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ben R was never convicted of anything was he? Maybe it was determined that there was no criminal wrong doing on his part?
I honestly have not followed that story - At All. But of course rape is never, ever acceptable and it is always a crime. Although an accusation is not the same thing as a conviction. People forget that.
The accusers agreed to a monetary settlement instead of pressing charges a'la Kobe Bryant.
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be significantly more outrage over Vick's animal cruelty than there is for any number of players who have committed acts of violence against women.
Anonymous wrote:Ben R was never convicted of anything was he? Maybe it was determined that there was no criminal wrong doing on his part?
I honestly have not followed that story - At All. But of course rape is never, ever acceptable and it is always a crime. Although an accusation is not the same thing as a conviction. People forget that.
Anonymous wrote:Karma cometh: Vick wasted his athletic youth and can't complete a pass when his professional life depends on it.
Anonymous wrote:There seems to be significantly more outrage over Vick's animal cruelty than there is for any number of players who have committed acts of violence against women.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The real question is why was there more outrage about Vick than Roethlisburger? A combination of racism and misogyny. People are harder on the black guy, and not as hard on the rapist because "women make things up against rich/famous people."
Vick has paid his dues. What he did made me sick, but he's done his time in prison. It's over.
It's not about race. Big Ben has won superbowls. Vick has not. Ray Lewis killed someone and we all love him.
The woman, a 20-year-old college student who has not been identified publicly, said she and her friends first saw the Pittsburgh Steelers' quarterback on the night of March 4 at Velvet Elvis, a supper club in Milledgeville, which is 83 miles south of Atlanta, Georgia.
After posing with him for pictures, "we left him alone" and went to The Brick, a pizza and pasta place in the same town, she said.
Roethlisberger and his entourage were there, too, she said, adding, "We continued to have casual conversation. He even made crude, sexual remarks."
Afterward, both groups made their way to Capital City, she said. The nightclub describes itself as having "great music, awesome drinks, hot bartenders."
"Ben asked us to go to his 'VIP' area (back of Capital). We all went with him. He said there were shots for us, numerous shots were on the bar, and he told us to take them. His bodyguard came and took my arm and said come with me, he escorted me into a side door/hallway, and sat me on a stool. He left and Ben came back with his penis out of his pants. I told him it wasn't OK, no, we don't need to do this and I proceeded to get up and try to leave. I went to the first door I saw, which happened to be a bathroom. He followed me into the bathroom and shut the door behind him. I still said no, this is not OK, and he then had sex with me. He said it was OK. He then left without saying anything.
"I went out of the hallway/door to the side where I saw my friends. We left Capital and went to the first police car we saw."
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The real question is why was there more outrage about Vick than Roethlisburger? A combination of racism and misogyny. People are harder on the black guy, and not as hard on the rapist because "women make things up against rich/famous people."
Vick has paid his dues. What he did made me sick, but he's done his time in prison. It's over.
It's not about race. Big Ben has won superbowls. Vick has not. Ray Lewis killed someone and we all love him.