Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 16:49     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I disagree. American kids have been losing ground for decades. And yet, America still wants the wool pulled over its eyes. We have to do better. We need to honestly know how bad our kids are doing in order to do better.


How do you know they need to do better, what metrics are you using to determine this or are you just reading the Washington Post?


PISA, you nitwit.


Why is it important that American students "do better" on the PISA? What metric are you using?


Who takes PISA?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 16:33     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I disagree. American kids have been losing ground for decades. And yet, America still wants the wool pulled over its eyes. We have to do better. We need to honestly know how bad our kids are doing in order to do better.


How do you know they need to do better, what metrics are you using to determine this or are you just reading the Washington Post?


PISA, you nitwit.


Why is it important that American students "do better" on the PISA? What metric are you using?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 13:05     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I disagree. American kids have been losing ground for decades. And yet, America still wants the wool pulled over its eyes. We have to do better. We need to honestly know how bad our kids are doing in order to do better.


How do you know they need to do better, what metrics are you using to determine this or are you just reading the Washington Post?


PISA, you nitwit.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:36     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
SAT scores come out in 6 weeks after a test....just saying
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:32     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:I disagree. American kids have been losing ground for decades. And yet, America still wants the wool pulled over its eyes. We have to do better. We need to honestly know how bad our kids are doing in order to do better.


How do you know they need to do better, what metrics are you using to determine this or are you just reading the Washington Post?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:32     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:Furthermore...

You know why "American kids have been losing ground?" Because Americans are dumb enough to think that spending billions on new test protocols every few years will improve their children's educational experiences more than, say, spending that money on their children's schools.


Nicely expressed.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:07     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:Furthermore...

You know why "American kids have been losing ground?" Because Americans are dumb enough to think that spending billions on new test protocols every few years will improve their children's educational experiences more than, say, spending that money on their children's schools.
Tell us how you really feel!
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:05     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:And you think a test that the majority of children fail is a good metric to show anything? You probably also think it's a clever and efficient idea to have essay questions scored not by a child's classroom teacher, but by an army of Temps making 12/ hour.

And how is the wool not being pulled over my eyes when I'm not getting my child's test results until December? Is it going to be useful for me to k ow that nine months ago she had difficulties with algebraic concepts when she was eight?

I call bullshit on the entire enterpise. Elementary education is really not very complicated. Generations have learned to add and subtract and read (and even history, literature and civics--charmingly outmoded concepts for you--I'm sure) without this bullshit.

However, reinventing the wheel every five years is very profitable for wheel companies, and wheel designers. That is all this is. If it were actually about assessing the kids we'd get assessments that actually helped assess the kids.


I agree. This is highly experimental. No studies to show that passing this test in third grade, fourth grade, whatever, is linked to career readiness or college success.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:04     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
Furthermore...

You know why "American kids have been losing ground?" Because Americans are dumb enough to think that spending billions on new test protocols every few years will improve their children's educational experiences more than, say, spending that money on their children's schools.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 12:01     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
And you think a test that the majority of children fail is a good metric to show anything? You probably also think it's a clever and efficient idea to have essay questions scored not by a child's classroom teacher, but by an army of Temps making 12/ hour.

And how is the wool not being pulled over my eyes when I'm not getting my child's test results until December? Is it going to be useful for me to k ow that nine months ago she had difficulties with algebraic concepts when she was eight?

I call bullshit on the entire enterpise. Elementary education is really not very complicated. Generations have learned to add and subtract and read (and even history, literature and civics--charmingly outmoded concepts for you--I'm sure) without this bullshit.

However, reinventing the wheel every five years is very profitable for wheel companies, and wheel designers. That is all this is. If it were actually about assessing the kids we'd get assessments that actually helped assess the kids.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 11:54     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
I disagree. American kids have been losing ground for decades. And yet, America still wants the wool pulled over its eyes. We have to do better. We need to honestly know how bad our kids are doing in order to do better.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 11:27     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
In a proper world, Pearson should be fined or made to rework the tests. If all the children are failing them, it's not the children or the teachers or the schools who should be penalized. So basically, they spent millions to create new "standards" that don't actually assess anything. Even when they had old standards, which showed progression from year to year.

I'm having a hard time even understanding how decisions this bad can even be made. Are the people making them really this stupid?
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 10:50     Subject: Test scores for 2014-15
Perhaps. Now let's get to work.
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 10:47     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think they are trying to figure out a way to spin the probably even more abysmal results for many DCPS schools.


Every state that took it is expected to bomb the test, not just DCPS.


Yes it is true it will be a wake up call for all states, but DCPS already had very, very low proficiency rates in the teens for many of its schools. What will it be now? Single digit proficiency rates???
Anonymous
Post 09/20/2015 08:45     Subject: Re:Test scores for 2014-15
Anonymous wrote:I think they are trying to figure out a way to spin the probably even more abysmal results for many DCPS schools.


Every state that took it is expected to bomb the test, not just DCPS.