Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But the point is that it should be in relation to what they are reading. They are called context clues. Wordly Wise teaches vocabulary in isolation. It is not directly connected to what the child is reading. Somehow we managed to learn an extensive vocabulary when I was in school through conversations and something called a dictionary.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2nd grade level isn't that advanced. remember the grade levels are based on a fairly low bar. Make sure she knows all her letter blends and letter sounds. Talk about common prefixes and suffixes. Phonics might not be covered with enough depth at your school. Vocabulary building is helpful for building reading comprehension skills. Look at the Wordly Wise series of workbooks.
I strongly disagree with this advice. The best way to improve your vocabulary is through reading and talking, not through direct vocabulary instruction like workbooks -- especially for beginning readers.
Kids will only get so far learning vocab on their own especially when they are reading harder books then their reading level. This is because they will skip the word all together and not even really try to give it a meaning because they get the general idea from the rest of the sentence and sentences. Often the bigger words they can not even sound out properly in 1 or 2nd grade yet. This is one of the major reasons I saw that kids who were advanced readers in K, 1st, and 2nd leveled off in 3rd. They were at the point that they needed to be able to understand all the words in context.
So yes, the majority of kids are going to need direct vocabulary instruction at some point.
As I said before, many times kids will skip the word all together and not even really try to give it a meaning because they get the general idea from the rest of the sentence and sentences. Often the bigger words they can not even sound out properly in 1 or 2nd grade yet. They DO NOT get the meaning of the word from the context, they simply skip the word all together , and get the general context of the story from the larger paragraph. That works ok for shallow reading comprehension like being able to tell who the characters are and the basic plot. As kids get older, they have to be able to derive more meaning from what they are reading. Vocabulary is one of the skills needed for reading comprehension.
Anonymous wrote:My daughter just began 1st grade last week and it's been determined she is reading at a mid 2nd grade level.
She has not been assessed for math yet but she routinely adds 3 digit numbers in her head for fun, like 341 + 287.
I realize that this is not genius-level, but she is only one of two kids in her class so far who is reading above grade level. What should we do for her? Anything? There is no gifted program and the school is not able to provide groups for her with kids at her age on a similar level.
Anonymous wrote:But the point is that it should be in relation to what they are reading. They are called context clues. Wordly Wise teaches vocabulary in isolation. It is not directly connected to what the child is reading. Somehow we managed to learn an extensive vocabulary when I was in school through conversations and something called a dictionary.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2nd grade level isn't that advanced. remember the grade levels are based on a fairly low bar. Make sure she knows all her letter blends and letter sounds. Talk about common prefixes and suffixes. Phonics might not be covered with enough depth at your school. Vocabulary building is helpful for building reading comprehension skills. Look at the Wordly Wise series of workbooks.
I strongly disagree with this advice. The best way to improve your vocabulary is through reading and talking, not through direct vocabulary instruction like workbooks -- especially for beginning readers.
Kids will only get so far learning vocab on their own especially when they are reading harder books then their reading level. This is because they will skip the word all together and not even really try to give it a meaning because they get the general idea from the rest of the sentence and sentences. Often the bigger words they can not even sound out properly in 1 or 2nd grade yet. This is one of the major reasons I saw that kids who were advanced readers in K, 1st, and 2nd leveled off in 3rd. They were at the point that they needed to be able to understand all the words in context.
So yes, the majority of kids are going to need direct vocabulary instruction at some point.
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Two of my friends had young children in similar situations, and ended up moving to school districts where they hoped to find more peers for their children. Which they did (Rockville and Bethesda).
Yes, not advocating moving and not to pee on your parade, OP--but, we are in Potomac and when my son was in first last year, I'd guess about 1/3 of his class was reading two grade levels above and most of the rest of the kids were at your daughter's level.
I'm less sure of the math levels, but, your daughter sounds similar to my son and he certainly had peers at school on his level.
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Two of my friends had young children in similar situations, and ended up moving to school districts where they hoped to find more peers for their children. Which they did (Rockville and Bethesda).
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My daughter just began 1st grade last week and it's been determined she is reading at a mid 2nd grade level.
She has not been assessed for math yet but she routinely adds 3 digit numbers in her head for fun, like 341 + 287.
I realize that this is not genius-level, but she is only one of two kids in her class so far who is reading above grade level. What should we do for her? Anything? There is no gifted program and the school is not able to provide groups for her with kids at her age on a similar level.
Really? No one else is reading a grade ahead? I find it hard to believe your DD is that much of an outlier at such a small deviation from the norm. Are the rest of the kids all remedial?
But the point is that it should be in relation to what they are reading. They are called context clues. Wordly Wise teaches vocabulary in isolation. It is not directly connected to what the child is reading. Somehow we managed to learn an extensive vocabulary when I was in school through conversations and something called a dictionary.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2nd grade level isn't that advanced. remember the grade levels are based on a fairly low bar. Make sure she knows all her letter blends and letter sounds. Talk about common prefixes and suffixes. Phonics might not be covered with enough depth at your school. Vocabulary building is helpful for building reading comprehension skills. Look at the Wordly Wise series of workbooks.
I strongly disagree with this advice. The best way to improve your vocabulary is through reading and talking, not through direct vocabulary instruction like workbooks -- especially for beginning readers.
Kids will only get so far learning vocab on their own especially when they are reading harder books then their reading level. This is because they will skip the word all together and not even really try to give it a meaning because they get the general idea from the rest of the sentence and sentences. Often the bigger words they can not even sound out properly in 1 or 2nd grade yet. This is one of the major reasons I saw that kids who were advanced readers in K, 1st, and 2nd leveled off in 3rd. They were at the point that they needed to be able to understand all the words in context.
So yes, the majority of kids are going to need direct vocabulary instruction at some point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2nd grade level isn't that advanced. remember the grade levels are based on a fairly low bar. Make sure she knows all her letter blends and letter sounds. Talk about common prefixes and suffixes. Phonics might not be covered with enough depth at your school. Vocabulary building is helpful for building reading comprehension skills. Look at the Wordly Wise series of workbooks.
I strongly disagree with this advice. The best way to improve your vocabulary is through reading and talking, not through direct vocabulary instruction like workbooks -- especially for beginning readers.
I agree that teaching vocabulary out of context isn't the most effective way to teach it. I would say read chapter books together and pull out teaching points (you can find pre-made questions online for many books on sites like Scholastic, etc.) Focus on building her comprehension skills and fluency. Unfortunately her teacher might not be able to support her advanced math skills so that is the area you should focus on at home.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:2nd grade level isn't that advanced. remember the grade levels are based on a fairly low bar. Make sure she knows all her letter blends and letter sounds. Talk about common prefixes and suffixes. Phonics might not be covered with enough depth at your school. Vocabulary building is helpful for building reading comprehension skills. Look at the Wordly Wise series of workbooks.
I strongly disagree with this advice. The best way to improve vocabulary is through reading and talking, not through direct vocabulary instruction like workbooks -- especially for beginning readers.