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Anonymous wrote:It just isn't true that "a large number" of Hill families move from Peabody to Watkins, though this was the case a decade ago.

Peabody is two-thirds in-boundary and half white, while Watkins is not even 20 IB% and white. Moreover, the percentage of in-boundary kids at Stuart Hobson has dipped several years running, bringing it down to around 15% from a third a decade ago.

The hot new charter for Hill families is really likely to be DC Global in NW, which starts in 6th grade.

Eastern HS is 0% white in a catchment area that's two-thirds white.

It is called Washington Global and it is in SW actually.

What do you think? That only the riff raff live in SW?

I may start a different thread because NO One is talking about Washington Global and I am really curious if they got anyone enrolled. They were spending a lot of time recuiting in the Safeway at the waterfront metro station. If they want to compete with BAsis and Latin for high achieving and high SES families, they need a different strategy. Were they doing any recruitment on the Hill? I hope its successfuly but I Honestly don' think it will have the rigor of a Basis. Maybe a bunch of parents who work in Lenfant will send their kids their due to convenience.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just isn't true that "a large number" of Hill families move from Peabody to Watkins, though this was the case a decade ago.

Peabody is two-thirds in-boundary and half white, while Watkins is not even 20 IB% and white. Moreover, the percentage of in-boundary kids at Stuart Hobson has dipped several years running, bringing it down to around 15% from a third a decade ago.

The hot new charter for Hill families is really likely to be DC Global in NW, which starts in 6th grade.

Eastern HS is 0% white in a catchment area that's two-thirds white.

It is called Washington Global and it is in SW actually.

What do you think? That only the riff raff live in SW?

I may start a different thread because NO One is talking about Washington Global and I am really curious if they got anyone enrolled. They were spending a lot of time recuiting in the Safeway at the waterfront metro station. If they want to compete with BAsis and Latin for high achieving and high SES families, they need a different strategy. Were they doing any recruitment on the Hill? I hope its successfuly but I Honestly don' think it will have the rigor of a Basis. Maybe a bunch of parents who work in Lenfant will send their kids their due to convenience.

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Anonymous wrote:It just isn't true that "a large number" of Hill families move from Peabody to Watkins, though this was the case a decade ago.

Peabody is two-thirds in-boundary and half white, while Watkins is not even 20 IB% and white. Moreover, the percentage of in-boundary kids at Stuart Hobson has dipped several years running, bringing it down to around 15% from a third a decade ago.

The hot new charter for Hill families is really likely to be DC Global in NW, which starts in 6th grade.

Eastern HS is 0% white in a catchment area that's two-thirds white.

It is called Washington Global and it is in SW actually.

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Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.

NCS - $38,850
St. Anselm's -$25,000
Georgetown Visitation - $27,400
St. John's - $20,750
Sidwell - $37,750
St. Alban's - $40,480

For convenience I've appended the list above with the 2015 tuition numbers. Please keep in mind that these don't include books or other fees at some of these schools. The way people here throw around the term "go private" or suggest that it's that easy amuses me. If you have enough disposable income to send your kid to these schools for 7 years (and to pay the tuition increases that will come annually) then you are in a 30+% federal tax bracket and paying almost 9% to DC. So do the math on this. To pay for tuition that costs only 25k a year you need to find $40,000 pretax W2 dollars just laying around (and that's for the tuitions that are only 25k. Some people can find that kind of money. But to throw that around like a legitimate and accessible option is absurd. But because high income earners make a lot they can probably find that amount. But at a lower tax rate and lower income levels where the heck are you going to find that money? And at what cost? If you saved half of that ($12,500) a year into a 529 account starting in 6th grade you'd have college more than paid for. If you are already maxed out in your 529 and college is paid for then no problem. But if your kid is going to graduate with a hundred grand (or more) in student debt because you spent all your money on private schools then you have to ask yourself if staying in an area without viable schools is the responsible thing to do.

P.S. You still have to apply and get accepted to those schools, yet another barrier to entry.
P.P.S And that's assuming only one kid. I see lots and lots of families on the Hill with 2 or 3.

OP here. This is REALLY helpful perspective, along with the other posts noting the scope of different options. It was what I had guessed but wasn't sure--we have friends on the Hill encouraging us to move there but in no way shape or form could we afford doing private middle or high, and it has just felt like they were minimizing the issue of what would happen in those years amid all of their "the Hill is GREAT for kids" spiels!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.

NCS - $38,850
St. Anselm's -$25,000
Georgetown Visitation - $27,400
St. John's - $20,750
Sidwell - $37,750
St. Alban's - $40,480

For convenience I've appended the list above with the 2015 tuition numbers. Please keep in mind that these don't include books or other fees at some of these schools. The way people here throw around the term "go private" or suggest that it's that easy amuses me. If you have enough disposable income to send your kid to these schools for 7 years (and to pay the tuition increases that will come annually) then you are in a 30+% federal tax bracket and paying almost 9% to DC. So do the math on this. To pay for tuition that costs only 25k a year you need to find $40,000 pretax W2 dollars just laying around (and that's for the tuitions that are only 25k. Some people can find that kind of money. But to throw that around like a legitimate and accessible option is absurd. But because high income earners make a lot they can probably find that amount. But at a lower tax rate and lower income levels where the heck are you going to find that money? And at what cost? If you saved half of that ($12,500) a year into a 529 account starting in 6th grade you'd have college more than paid for. If you are already maxed out in your 529 and college is paid for then no problem. But if your kid is going to graduate with a hundred grand (or more) in student debt because you spent all your money on private schools then you have to ask yourself if staying in an area without viable schools is the responsible thing to do.

P.S. You still have to apply and get accepted to those schools, yet another barrier to entry.
P.P.S And that's assuming only one kid. I see lots and lots of families on the Hill with 2 or 3.

Anonymous wrote:several of us have chosen DCI and are so glad!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.

NCS - $38,850
St. Anselm's -$25,000
Georgetown Visitation - $27,400
St. John's - $20,750
Sidwell - $37,750
St. Alban's - $40,480

For convenience I've appended the list above with the 2015 tuition numbers. Please keep in mind that these don't include books or other fees at some of these schools. The way people here throw around the term "go private" or suggest that it's that easy amuses me. If you have enough disposable income to send your kid to these schools for 7 years (and to pay the tuition increases that will come annually) then you are in a 30+% federal tax bracket and paying almost 9% to DC. So do the math on this. To pay for tuition that costs only 25k a year you need to find $40,000 pretax W2 dollars just laying around (and that's for the tuitions that are only 25k. Some people can find that kind of money. But to throw that around like a legitimate and accessible option is absurd. But because high income earners make a lot they can probably find that amount. But at a lower tax rate and lower income levels where the heck are you going to find that money? And at what cost? If you saved half of that ($12,500) a year into a 529 account starting in 6th grade you'd have college more than paid for. If you are already maxed out in your 529 and college is paid for then no problem. But if your kid is going to graduate with a hundred grand (or more) in student debt because you spent all your money on private schools then you have to ask yourself if staying in an area without viable schools is the responsible thing to do.

P.S. You still have to apply and get accepted to those schools, yet another barrier to entry.
P.P.S And that's assuming only one kid. I see lots and lots of families on the Hill with 2 or 3.

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Anonymous wrote:It just isn't true that "a large number" of Hill families move from Peabody to Watkins, though this was the case a decade ago.

Peabody is two-thirds in-boundary and half white, while Watkins is not even 20 IB% and white. Moreover, the percentage of in-boundary kids at Stuart Hobson has dipped several years running, bringing it down to around 15% from a third a decade ago.

The hot new charter for Hill families is really likely to be DC Global in NW, which starts in 6th grade.

Eastern HS is 0% white in a catchment area that's two-thirds white.

First, if you search for Watkins, you'll find way too many threads on this, but that's no reason not to start another.

There's a significant difference between the upper and lower Watkins grade; as you might expect, there are a lot more high SES kids in the lower grades. (To try to avoid getting distracted by this issue: by high SES I mean, in general, kids whose parents have college or grad school education. Also, note that the share white and in-bound is correlated with share high SES, but there are plenty of exceptions: Almost all white kids are high SES, but a very large portion of black kids are too; in the lower grades, I'd guess most, but I really don't know. And some in-bounds kids are lower SES, and many out-of-bound kids are high SES, like mine.)

The question, of course, is how many of the lower grade kids will continue. In past years, relatively few have, so even when there were a lot of high SES kids in K in Peabody and 1st and maybe 2nd at Watkins, that share declined at older grades. (And yes, many kids stayed and continued to Stuart Hobson and had good experiences.) My impression is that that's changing. The dropout rate is going down, so this year's 3rd grade has a higher share of high SES kids than last year, 2nd grade has a higher share than last year, and so on. There has been a bigger dropoff at 5th as kids go to Basis and Latin. To what extent that is changing and to what extent more kids will go to Stuart Hobson, I don't know.

- Parent of 2nd grader

I don't mean to be mean, but what you've just said is true of almost every ES on the Hill (save for maybe Brent). Walk the halls of the 1st floor of Ludlow Taylor and then go to the 3rd floor; they look like different schools. The obvious next step foe every ES is whether ECE stay and commit to the next few years. From there it is about whether they would commit to MS, etc. No one knows for sure. But trend lines are encouraging. But please don't make this specific to Watkins. The song is getting OLD.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just isn't true that "a large number" of Hill families move from Peabody to Watkins, though this was the case a decade ago.

Peabody is two-thirds in-boundary and half white, while Watkins is not even 20 IB% and white. Moreover, the percentage of in-boundary kids at Stuart Hobson has dipped several years running, bringing it down to around 15% from a third a decade ago.

The hot new charter for Hill families is really likely to be DC Global in NW, which starts in 6th grade.

Eastern HS is 0% white in a catchment area that's two-thirds white.

First, if you search for Watkins, you'll find way too many threads on this, but that's no reason not to start another.

There's a significant difference between the upper and lower Watkins grade; as you might expect, there are a lot more high SES kids in the lower grades. (To try to avoid getting distracted by this issue: by high SES I mean, in general, kids whose parents have college or grad school education. Also, note that the share white and in-bound is correlated with share high SES, but there are plenty of exceptions: Almost all white kids are high SES, but a very large portion of black kids are too; in the lower grades, I'd guess most, but I really don't know. And some in-bounds kids are lower SES, and many out-of-bound kids are high SES, like mine.)

The question, of course, is how many of the lower grade kids will continue. In past years, relatively few have, so even when there were a lot of high SES kids in K in Peabody and 1st and maybe 2nd at Watkins, that share declined at older grades. (And yes, many kids stayed and continued to Stuart Hobson and had good experiences.) My impression is that that's changing. The dropout rate is going down, so this year's 3rd grade has a higher share of high SES kids than last year, 2nd grade has a higher share than last year, and so on. There has been a bigger dropoff at 5th as kids go to Basis and Latin. To what extent that is changing and to what extent more kids will go to Stuart Hobson, I don't know.

- Parent of 2nd grader

I don't mean to be mean, but what you've just said is true of almost every ES on the Hill (save for maybe Brent). Walk the halls of the 1st floor of Ludlow Taylor and then go to the 3rd floor; they look like different schools. The obvious next step foe every ES is whether ECE stay and commit to the next few years. From there it is about whether they would commit to MS, etc. No one knows for sure. But trend lines are encouraging. But please don't make this specific to Watkins. The song is getting OLD.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's a mixed bag. I know Hill folks who attend Walls, McKinley, Duke, DeMatha (in MD), Gonzaga, Latin and Basis.

NCS - $38,850
St. Anselm's -$25,000
Georgetown Visitation - $27,400
St. John's - $20,750
Sidwell - $37,750
St. Alban's - $40,480

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It just isn't true that "a large number" of Hill families move from Peabody to Watkins, though this was the case a decade ago.

Peabody is two-thirds in-boundary and half white, while Watkins is not even 20 IB% and white. Moreover, the percentage of in-boundary kids at Stuart Hobson has dipped several years running, bringing it down to around 15% from a third a decade ago.

The hot new charter for Hill families is really likely to be DC Global in NW, which starts in 6th grade.

Eastern HS is 0% white in a catchment area that's two-thirds white.

First, if you search for Watkins, you'll find way too many threads on this, but that's no reason not to start another.

There's a significant difference between the upper and lower Watkins grade; as you might expect, there are a lot more high SES kids in the lower grades. (To try to avoid getting distracted by this issue: by high SES I mean, in general, kids whose parents have college or grad school education. Also, note that the share white and in-bound is correlated with share high SES, but there are plenty of exceptions: Almost all white kids are high SES, but a very large portion of black kids are too; in the lower grades, I'd guess most, but I really don't know. And some in-bounds kids are lower SES, and many out-of-bound kids are high SES, like mine.)

The question, of course, is how many of the lower grade kids will continue. In past years, relatively few have, so even when there were a lot of high SES kids in K in Peabody and 1st and maybe 2nd at Watkins, that share declined at older grades. (And yes, many kids stayed and continued to Stuart Hobson and had good experiences.) My impression is that that's changing. The dropout rate is going down, so this year's 3rd grade has a higher share of high SES kids than last year, 2nd grade has a higher share than last year, and so on. There has been a bigger dropoff at 5th as kids go to Basis and Latin. To what extent that is changing and to what extent more kids will go to Stuart Hobson, I don't know.

- Parent of 2nd grader