Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:20     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:

In the past few weeks I have witnessed babies at bars - not for happy hours (where the baby and mother clear out by 730 so they can make sure baby is in bed by 8) but out for girls' night out until 9 and 10 at night. We aren't talking newborns either. These babies look confuses and lost - probably because they are exhausted and overstimulated in their environments.

In every case it has been one baby with mom and the rest of the single ladies. I assume single mom but don't get close enough to inspect hands. A few weeks ago it was a young mother so I let it go. Last night at Flight it was a very decidedly looking older mother with a bunch of younger women (mom was mid to late 30s, possibly 40). So she is old enough to know better. Let DH care for the baby - if there is one, or hire a sitter. If you have enough money to be eating and drinking out you have enough to hire a sitter and let that baby sleep.

Grow up.


Well you can leave the bar and then you won't have to see it. I never understand people who choose to immerse themselves in the lives of strangers.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:12     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

How about all the mom's who think it brilliant to bring babies to baseball games when it is 90 degrees out and 110% humidity.

Simmering a baby seems like a great idea.


Yes, it's a bad idea for people who live in tropical countries to have babies, unless they also have air conditioning. Or something.


Also, add that fact that most are wearing the babies on the front of them - God forbid (seriously) a fly ball hits them -- people get hurt every year.

I think taking babies/kids to games is great. But I would not take them on a really hot day. Why torture the baby.


God forbid (seriously) a fly ball hits me. Then my baby will be an orphan. Nobody with children should go to a baseball game. Right?


Side note _ friend got hit in the face at an O's game by a fly ball. Broke her nose, eye sockets, and jaw. She had to have several reconstructive surgeries over 18 months and she looks NOTHING like she did prior to the accident.

I honestly never knew how often getting hit happened - apparently it is on the waiver agreement on the back of the ticket. Doesn't stop me from going but I do pay attention.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:09     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out


Lots of crappy parents. Don't care. Not my kid.

I wouldn't have my baby in a bar after happy hour.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:08     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Meh. She is a mom who puts her social needs above her child's -- the baby can get lots of therapy as to why mommy never really loved them.

My DH's mom was like that - she still is. Her friends come first - over her husband and kids. The girls turned out okay, but her her boys... messed up. Constantly needing attention and terrified of not being loved.


I'll preface this by saying I've never brought my baby into a bar. He's 2 now.

That said, my mother had NO friends when I was a kid. None. She wasn't a particularly good mother even though she was always around - she was depressed and wallowed at home. I would have MUCH preferred that she have friends and take us out with her.

You have no idea what this mom's circumstance is. Maybe her best friend lives across the country and was available to hang out for just one night, and her babysitter cancelled. Maintaining friendships through parenthood is REALLY hard. I suck at it. But sometimes it can take precedence over bedtime. It's good for kids to see parents with a healthy network of friends.


It could be a one time thing. We do have a friend in our social network who is always bringing out her baby. Her husband goes out with his friends and they do not want to spend money on sitters. That baby goes out three to four times a week. It is kind of insane. The baby is also kind of a mess though (doesn't act right) so I am not sure if something is wrong with the baby and they fear leaving it at home or if the baby is just so confused by everything.

I think that being a mom you need to go out once or twice a month with friends if you can. Several times a week is excessive. A baby is not a backpack you can take everywhere.

And we had a sitter cancel once and we all did take out and came over to the house. There are lots of ways to be social that don't include a baby in a bar late night.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:08     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

How about all the mom's who think it brilliant to bring babies to baseball games when it is 90 degrees out and 110% humidity.

Simmering a baby seems like a great idea.


Yes, it's a bad idea for people who live in tropical countries to have babies, unless they also have air conditioning. Or something.


Also, add that fact that most are wearing the babies on the front of them - God forbid (seriously) a fly ball hits them -- people get hurt every year.

I think taking babies/kids to games is great. But I would not take them on a really hot day. Why torture the baby.


God forbid (seriously) a fly ball hits me. Then my baby will be an orphan. Nobody with children should go to a baseball game. Right?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:07     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

How about all the mom's who think it brilliant to bring babies to baseball games when it is 90 degrees out and 110% humidity.

Simmering a baby seems like a great idea.


Yes, it's a bad idea for people who live in tropical countries to have babies, unless they also have air conditioning. Or something.


So you don't use a/c?

We have technology to make us comfortable. Why subject a baby who cannot control its environment to being uncomfortable/miserable when you do not have to?

We also have medicine in this first world country to make babies comfortable when they have fevers, by your logic we shouldn't do that since other countries do not? That is asinine.


Your idea seems to be that babies can't deal with 90 degrees and humid. But clearly they can.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:05     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Meh...you don't know the story.

For all you know she is in from out of town and her friends told her to bring the baby. I did that a few times when travelling. Mu first was a night owl, never cried and was perfectly happy hanging out even at night. My other kid was the opposite.

You don't know the back story.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:03     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:

Meh. She is a mom who puts her social needs above her child's -- the baby can get lots of therapy as to why mommy never really loved them.

My DH's mom was like that - she still is. Her friends come first - over her husband and kids. The girls turned out okay, but her her boys... messed up. Constantly needing attention and terrified of not being loved.


I'll preface this by saying I've never brought my baby into a bar. He's 2 now.

That said, my mother had NO friends when I was a kid. None. She wasn't a particularly good mother even though she was always around - she was depressed and wallowed at home. I would have MUCH preferred that she have friends and take us out with her.

You have no idea what this mom's circumstance is. Maybe her best friend lives across the country and was available to hang out for just one night, and her babysitter cancelled. Maintaining friendships through parenthood is REALLY hard. I suck at it. But sometimes it can take precedence over bedtime. It's good for kids to see parents with a healthy network of friends.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:03     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

How about all the mom's who think it brilliant to bring babies to baseball games when it is 90 degrees out and 110% humidity.

Simmering a baby seems like a great idea.


Yes, it's a bad idea for people who live in tropical countries to have babies, unless they also have air conditioning. Or something.


So you don't use a/c?

We have technology to make us comfortable. Why subject a baby who cannot control its environment to being uncomfortable/miserable when you do not have to?

We also have medicine in this first world country to make babies comfortable when they have fevers, by your logic we shouldn't do that since other countries do not? That is asinine.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 09:00     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

How about all the mom's who think it brilliant to bring babies to baseball games when it is 90 degrees out and 110% humidity.

Simmering a baby seems like a great idea.


Yes, it's a bad idea for people who live in tropical countries to have babies, unless they also have air conditioning. Or something.


Also, add that fact that most are wearing the babies on the front of them - God forbid (seriously) a fly ball hits them -- people get hurt every year.

I think taking babies/kids to games is great. But I would not take them on a really hot day. Why torture the baby.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 08:53     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:

How about all the mom's who think it brilliant to bring babies to baseball games when it is 90 degrees out and 110% humidity.

Simmering a baby seems like a great idea.


Yes, it's a bad idea for people who live in tropical countries to have babies, unless they also have air conditioning. Or something.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 08:52     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, who cares? Myob.


Except that it is a bar. And I curse, drink and let down my guard at bars when with my friends. Thankfully people don't smoke in bars anymore but it really isn't appropriate place for a baby.


I don't understand. Do you think that the baby is going to learn to curse, drink, and talk about sex?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 08:52     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out


I am going with OP on this for different reasons. The fact that this mom probably is not a stellar example of motherhood doesn't bother me. That is her mess she is creating.

But when I am out in a restaurant or bar (after 8ish or so) I really don't want a baby around. I don't want to hear a baby crying or fussing or worry about being loud, etc. It is kind of like going out to party and a couple of nuns are in the group - it is a wet blanket.

So screw up your kid - I don't care. But it isn't right to the other patrons.

Those that say MYOB are probably the same ones who bring babies to fancy restaurants, bars, etc.
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 08:50     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In Europe, we saw babies in pubs and restaurants late at night all the time.


Europeans are lushes and not exactly good role models. They also smoke a lot and have unhealthy attitudes about things like sex. What's your point?


Unhealthy attitudes about sex as opposed to what? Teaching abstinence only?
Anonymous
Post 08/14/2015 08:48     Subject: For the love of God Please stop bringing your babies to bars for girl's night out
Anonymous wrote:Yeah, who cares? Myob.


Except that it is a bar. And I curse, drink and let down my guard at bars when with my friends. Thankfully people don't smoke in bars anymore but it really isn't appropriate place for a baby.