Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:58     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
The OP says that her friends' child "is" being bullied at another school. It's July. School isn't in session. Any bullying that happened last year may actually be water under the bridge. It sounds to me like the OP's friends just want to move their kid to a better school and are using "bullying" as a justification for doing so.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:58     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi we have friends who child is being bullied at another school and would like to use our address for a different middle school, the one we are inbounds for. I do not like being dishonest in the first place but also feel like I would like to help my friend. What are the reprocusions form doing this??



Obviously, you are perfectly comfortable being dishonest, or you wouldn't even be considering this.

I hope YOU get caught and exposed to everyone in your neighborhood. They should print public lists of people like you.



Wtf I have not done anything and was asking a question... You nasty little person. Why don't you post your name and a place and time to meet and let you say those mean spirited things to my face pussy


I think the two of you should meet in Temecula to duke it out
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:51     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi we have friends who child is being bullied at another school and would like to use our address for a different middle school, the one we are inbounds for. I do not like being dishonest in the first place but also feel like I would like to help my friend. What are the reprocusions form doing this??



Obviously, you are perfectly comfortable being dishonest, or you wouldn't even be considering this.

I hope YOU get caught and exposed to everyone in your neighborhood. They should print public lists of people like you.



Wtf I have not done anything and was asking a question... You nasty little person. Why don't you post your name and a place and time to meet and let you say those mean spirited things to my face pussy


Yikes.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:41     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hi we have friends who child is being bullied at another school and would like to use our address for a different middle school, the one we are inbounds for. I do not like being dishonest in the first place but also feel like I would like to help my friend. What are the reprocusions form doing this??



Obviously, you are perfectly comfortable being dishonest, or you wouldn't even be considering this.

I hope YOU get caught and exposed to everyone in your neighborhood. They should print public lists of people like you.



Wtf I have not done anything and was asking a question... You nasty little person. Why don't you post your name and a place and time to meet and let you say those mean spirited things to my face pussy
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:38     Subject: Re:Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Thank you for everyone's response except those that were nasty about it. I have not said yes and will say no. I am uncomfortable with it and my gut tells me not to. I feel sad that this boy is being bullied but I think they should try to go the legal route to get him to change schools.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:37     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
This should have been done while when the incidents were occurring.

My child was being bullied at Wilson and I emailed both the principal and the Dean and met with both. The child had several other runs ins with students, but their parents didn't get involved like I did.

The student ended up getting "kicked" out.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:20     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
I wouldn't think twice about it when we aren't talking about a PK seat. OP isn't committing or aiding/abetting fraud or making a false statement. The problem will be getting the necessary documentation in place to enroll the child. You will need a lease agreement (with de minimis minthly rental charge) and the parent will have to change the address on her drivers license and car registration with said documentation. It would be helpful if you had an in-law suite or basement unit that could be setup for the parent and child as a backup. No one is going to ask your kid about the address his/her friend is using for middle school.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 15:16     Subject: Re:Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well the punishment for your friend would be as follows: "Penalty for False Information

Any person, including any District of Columbia public school or public charter school official, who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to charges of tuition retroactively, and payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both fine and imprisonment, pursuant to the District of Columbia Nonresident Tuition Act, approved September 8, 1960 and amended by the District of Columbia Public Schools and Public Charter School Student Residency Fraud Prevention Amendment Act of 2012 (D.C. Code §38-312). The case of any such person may be referred by the Office of the State Superintendent of Education to the Office of the Attorney General."

I'm not sure if DC would bring an aiding and abetting case against you. But it's still wrong. It's more than just being dishonest, you're taking a spot from other kids who follow the rules and have applied for out of bounds spots. Your friends can do that, and they should escalate the situation through the school and DCPS if necessary (and DCPS may move the child if necessary).


That's the penalty for residency fraud, PP. It does not sound like OP is proposing residency fraud, but rather boundary fraud. In other words, OP's friend is a DC resident, but would like the child to transfer out of the IB MS due to bullying.

Let's be honest. OP's friend has probably complained about the bullying already and nothing has been done about it. DCPS will certainly not transfer the child to a desirable MS (Deal, Hardy?) because of complaints of bullying at the IB MS. The bullying will continue, and eventually the child will have to transfer to a so-so charter school or be homeschooled, if OP's friend has that kind of time.

OP, boundary fraud is commonplace at DCPS. If your friend is stuck, I would certainly consider helping out. Depending on how close you are, you could make it non-fraudulent by inviting your friend to live with you for a month or two while the child gets settled into the new school. If "living together" doesn't work out, the child will be allowed to stay at the school for the whole year and perhaps until HS.


+1

OSSE doesn't have the time or resources to chase you down. If you are close with this family, and they have not had success trying other means, be a friend and do it.

I know someone who did this, but they had to essentially pay rent for a basement apt in a more desirable boundary area b/c they didn't have friends there. Their kid was being bullied.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 14:53     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would never do that, OP. Instead, I would advise the friends to go to central office and get a new placement. I'd start with the chancellor's response team. I'd also probably ask my city council member to get involved.


It is July 31. It's too late to beg favors at this point. Yes they are supposed to take care of children in bad situations, but I don't think this would happen quickly, if at all.


It's not asking for a favor. This is the process for when someone is being bullied.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 14:51     Subject: Re:Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
This sets a very poor example not only for YOUR child, but for the child of your friend.
It is lying. Plain and simple.
Honest people don’t lie.
You are asking your children to participate in a lie.
Is that the kind of example you wish to set for your children?
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 14:47     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:I would never do that, OP. Instead, I would advise the friends to go to central office and get a new placement. I'd start with the chancellor's response team. I'd also probably ask my city council member to get involved.


It is July 31. It's too late to beg favors at this point. Yes they are supposed to take care of children in bad situations, but I don't think this would happen quickly, if at all.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 13:54     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
I would never do that, OP. Instead, I would advise the friends to go to central office and get a new placement. I'd start with the chancellor's response team. I'd also probably ask my city council member to get involved.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 13:51     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
I bet OP could totally get away with it. And e penalty can't be that bad since it's not residency fraud. After the first year, you can relax.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 13:48     Subject: Re:Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
Anonymous wrote:Well the punishment for your friend would be as follows: "Penalty for False Information

Any person, including any District of Columbia public school or public charter school official, who knowingly supplies false information to a public official in connection with student residency verification shall be subject to charges of tuition retroactively, and payment of a fine of not more than $2,000 or imprisonment for not more than 90 days, but not both fine and imprisonment, pursuant to the District of Columbia Nonresident Tuition Act, approved September 8, 1960 and amended by the District of Columbia Public Schools and Public Charter School Student Residency Fraud Prevention Amendment Act of 2012 (D.C. Code §38-312). The case of any such person may be referred by the Office of the State Superintendent of Education to the Office of the Attorney General."

I'm not sure if DC would bring an aiding and abetting case against you. But it's still wrong. It's more than just being dishonest, you're taking a spot from other kids who follow the rules and have applied for out of bounds spots. Your friends can do that, and they should escalate the situation through the school and DCPS if necessary (and DCPS may move the child if necessary).


That's the penalty for residency fraud, PP. It does not sound like OP is proposing residency fraud, but rather boundary fraud. In other words, OP's friend is a DC resident, but would like the child to transfer out of the IB MS due to bullying.

Let's be honest. OP's friend has probably complained about the bullying already and nothing has been done about it. DCPS will certainly not transfer the child to a desirable MS (Deal, Hardy?) because of complaints of bullying at the IB MS. The bullying will continue, and eventually the child will have to transfer to a so-so charter school or be homeschooled, if OP's friend has that kind of time.

OP, boundary fraud is commonplace at DCPS. If your friend is stuck, I would certainly consider helping out. Depending on how close you are, you could make it non-fraudulent by inviting your friend to live with you for a month or two while the child gets settled into the new school. If "living together" doesn't work out, the child will be allowed to stay at the school for the whole year and perhaps until HS.
Anonymous
Post 07/31/2015 13:34     Subject: Using our address for friends child to go to the public school we are in bounds for
This has to be a joke... For someone to take this made for tv situation and then post it. How boring is your summer or uneventful for that matter. Legalization of pot has made the most boring life situations fodder for this blog. Puff, puff past and hit the send button on gibberish. A friend who has a child bullied and the sensible thing is too commit fraud. Jesus, take the wheel.