Anonymous
07/16/2015 15:19
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
One of my DC'S will be applying to colleges in the fall and adamantly and unequivocally refuses to consider any college in Texas or the deep south. All of this with incidences occurring in the last 12 months that has caused DC to become jaded. I tell DC it happens everywhere but DC says incidents happen more in the south and especially in Texas.
My heart breaks because DC is so young to have these fears.
My heart breaks because DC is so young to have these fears.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 14:53
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Police brutality definitely needs to be seriously and independently investigated (so much risk of cover-up), and it's good the state police have taken over.
I moved from the Chicago suburbs to Texas about a year and a half ago. Kind of an interesting title - I don't really know what the move/locations have to do with it. I guess just makes it a little more intriguing and the fact that she was outside of her normal area/family/friends makes it feel more scary.
I just watched A Death in St. Augustine last night. That one was in Florida (and happened at a private home of an officer for the Sheriff's Dept, ruled as suicide). Another case - Molly Young in Carbondale, Illinois - boyfriend was a dispatcher for the police department, ruled a suicide. Not the same as this case but there are lots of cases all over like this. I'd be scared to date a cop, to be frank.
OP -- the move is relevant because the Texas cops are saying she committed suicide. Why would someone accept a new job, drive across country and then kill herself.
So, yeah, that is relevant.
Just to play devils advocate but the fact that she got arrested would very likely have led to her losing that new job. And would potentially make securing other jobs quite Difficult. So I CAN see how someone could be driven to the edge if they wee already close to it.
Arrested =/= Convicted. People are wrongly arrested all the time. I have never seen a job application that asks if you have been arrested. Just if you have been convicted, and they usually exclude traffic violations.
(Obviously people are also wrongly convicted. But that's not relevant to this specific discussion.)
All background checks say "arrested" and they will hold up your clearance until the case is cleared by the courts. BTW.
I don't think this has any bearing on this case.
Good points; the phenomenon of an "arrest record" violates the constitutionally-protected right to a presumption of innocence until PROVEN guilty.
A mere arrest is proof of nothing.
But an arrest record can never be erased or expunged, and it shifts the burden onto the arrestee to prove their innocence.
This phenomenon is wrong and must be challenged (conservative republican here, BTW).
Anonymous
07/16/2015 14:44
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Police brutality definitely needs to be seriously and independently investigated (so much risk of cover-up), and it's good the state police have taken over.
I moved from the Chicago suburbs to Texas about a year and a half ago. Kind of an interesting title - I don't really know what the move/locations have to do with it. I guess just makes it a little more intriguing and the fact that she was outside of her normal area/family/friends makes it feel more scary.
I just watched A Death in St. Augustine last night. That one was in Florida (and happened at a private home of an officer for the Sheriff's Dept, ruled as suicide). Another case - Molly Young in Carbondale, Illinois - boyfriend was a dispatcher for the police department, ruled a suicide. Not the same as this case but there are lots of cases all over like this. I'd be scared to date a cop, to be frank.
OP -- the move is relevant because the Texas cops are saying she committed suicide. Why would someone accept a new job, drive across country and then kill herself.
So, yeah, that is relevant.
Just to play devils advocate but the fact that she got arrested would very likely have led to her losing that new job. And would potentially make securing other jobs quite Difficult. So I CAN see how someone could be driven to the edge if they wee already close to it.
Arrested =/= Convicted. People are wrongly arrested all the time. I have never seen a job application that asks if you have been arrested. Just if you have been convicted, and they usually exclude traffic violations.
(Obviously people are also wrongly convicted. But that's not relevant to this specific discussion.)
All background checks say "arrested" and they will hold up your clearance until the case is cleared by the courts. BTW.
I don't think this has any bearing on this case.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 14:42
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Just another reason not to go to Texas.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 14:41
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Police brutality definitely needs to be seriously and independently investigated (so much risk of cover-up), and it's good the state police have taken over.
I moved from the Chicago suburbs to Texas about a year and a half ago. Kind of an interesting title - I don't really know what the move/locations have to do with it. I guess just makes it a little more intriguing and the fact that she was outside of her normal area/family/friends makes it feel more scary.
I just watched A Death in St. Augustine last night. That one was in Florida (and happened at a private home of an officer for the Sheriff's Dept, ruled as suicide). Another case - Molly Young in Carbondale, Illinois - boyfriend was a dispatcher for the police department, ruled a suicide. Not the same as this case but there are lots of cases all over like this. I'd be scared to date a cop, to be frank.
OP -- the move is relevant because the Texas cops are saying she committed suicide. Why would someone accept a new job, drive across country and then kill herself.
So, yeah, that is relevant.
Just to play devils advocate but the fact that she got arrested would very likely have led to her losing that new job. And would potentially make securing other jobs quite Difficult. So I CAN see how someone could be driven to the edge if they wee already close to it.
Um no. Thousands of people are arrested every day in the U.S. and they do not commit suicide. Most likely, the victim died from complications of a concussion after having her head slammed into the ground for a traffic violation.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 14:39
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:Really sad she probably just thought her life was over after being arrested. I would kill myself too if I ever get arrested.
Are you suicidal now? Only a person who thinks that their life is worthless would post what you just wrote. Seek help.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 14:13
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Something definitely does not add up here. Damn that's horrible!
Anonymous
07/16/2015 13:58
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:I really hope you are kidding.Anonymous wrote:Really sad she probably just thought her life was over after being arrested. I would kill myself too if I ever get arrested.
No! Not kidding
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Anonymous
07/16/2015 13:50
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
I really hope you are kidding.Anonymous wrote:Really sad she probably just thought her life was over after being arrested. I would kill myself too if I ever get arrested.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 13:44
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
don't even get me started on tx justice. My FIL was serving time for a white collar crime and the warden guy was just going to let him fucking die in a hospital from cancer and tell the family about it later had my husband and MIL not started inquiring about his whereabouts when we hadn't heard from him in a while.
Granted, he was in a federal facility, but still....fucking TX.
Granted, he was in a federal facility, but still....fucking TX.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 13:41
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Horrible at first blush; I hope there is a full investigation.
Personally, the initial report gives me an eerie déjà vu of several bad 1970s "B" movies about traveling through the south and ending up in jail at the hands of crooked sharifs - they always had those silver ray ban glasses on too. Creepy as fuck!
Personally, the initial report gives me an eerie déjà vu of several bad 1970s "B" movies about traveling through the south and ending up in jail at the hands of crooked sharifs - they always had those silver ray ban glasses on too. Creepy as fuck!
Anonymous
07/16/2015 13:13
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
So sad, but part of a larger epidemic of police brutality.
Anonymous
07/16/2015 12:57
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:It appears that the sheriff involved in the arrest had previously been suspended and ultimately fired from a previous position after numerous allegations of racist behavior.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/16/1402770/-Texas-Sheriff-involved-in-the-death-of-Sandra-Bland-fired-from-previous-post-for-racism
Awful. That guy seemed shady to me in the video in the OP too. The DA doesn't seem any better, his eye movements indicated lying!
Anonymous
07/16/2015 12:53
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
It appears that the sheriff involved in the arrest had previously been suspended and ultimately fired from a previous position after numerous allegations of racist behavior.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/16/1402770/-Texas-Sheriff-involved-in-the-death-of-Sandra-Bland-fired-from-previous-post-for-racism
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/16/1402770/-Texas-Sheriff-involved-in-the-death-of-Sandra-Bland-fired-from-previous-post-for-racism
Anonymous
07/16/2015 12:42
Subject: Woman moves from Illinois to Texas and ends up dead in jail cell
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Police brutality definitely needs to be seriously and independently investigated (so much risk of cover-up), and it's good the state police have taken over.
I moved from the Chicago suburbs to Texas about a year and a half ago. Kind of an interesting title - I don't really know what the move/locations have to do with it. I guess just makes it a little more intriguing and the fact that she was outside of her normal area/family/friends makes it feel more scary.
I just watched A Death in St. Augustine last night. That one was in Florida (and happened at a private home of an officer for the Sheriff's Dept, ruled as suicide). Another case - Molly Young in Carbondale, Illinois - boyfriend was a dispatcher for the police department, ruled a suicide. Not the same as this case but there are lots of cases all over like this. I'd be scared to date a cop, to be frank.
OP -- the move is relevant because the Texas cops are saying she committed suicide. Why would someone accept a new job, drive across country and then kill herself.
So, yeah, that is relevant.
Just to play devils advocate but the fact that she got arrested would very likely have led to her losing that new job. And would potentially make securing other jobs quite Difficult. So I CAN see how someone could be driven to the edge if they wee already close to it.
Arrested =/= Convicted. People are wrongly arrested all the time. I have never seen a job application that asks if you have been arrested. Just if you have been convicted, and they usually exclude traffic violations.
(Obviously people are also wrongly convicted. But that's not relevant to this specific discussion.)