Anonymous wrote:those nerds have too much to lose to waste time on rec drugs. maybe the sliver of loser kids or kids with no real goals and large safety nets, but most of our HS'rs friends have their eyes on the ball - sports, AP, clubs, college. very busy kids.

Hilarious

those nerds have too much to lose to waste time on rec drugs. maybe the sliver of loser kids or kids with no real goals and large safety nets, but most of our HS'rs friends have their eyes on the ball - sports, AP, clubs, college. very busy kids.

And Ricin

Anonymous wrote:We are new to the area and have 7th grader. Whitman sounds like that school in The Wire. Is that the case?

Yes, Whitman HS in Bethesda is just exactly like a fictional high school in West Baltimore.

We are new to the area and have 7th grader. Whitman sounds like that school in The Wire. Is that the case?

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Anonymous wrote:My DD is going to Whitman next fall. She is definitely going to do heroin? I am terrified. Is Whitman like a giant open air drug market?? Are kids shooting up in the bathroom. We just moved here from CT.

Only you can answer the questions about your own daughter. Having said that the last thing that she will be doing is heroin.

Don't think a rich kid can't get involved in heroin - it's a huge epidemic everywhere and easy to get - and shooting up once with heroin's current lethality may mean it actually IS the last thing she will be doing.

Seriously people. It is fine. I went there. Yes, some kids did drugs. Some kids drank. Most didn't do drugs. A lot didn't drink. If your kids can't handle Whitman, forget college because drugs and drinking are definitely at every college and you won't be there to watch over your kids. In all seriousness, I never saw anyone do anything in high school other than drink or smoke cigarettes and I was not a prudish kid and my parents allowed me to go to dc clubs, etc. I never actually saw crack or cocaine or heroin until college. BUT!! Kids did buy synthetic stuff that hadn't been listed as illegal by the DEA yet and they thought those drugs were legal. There is a new drug like that now and the "clever' types might think they are experimenting without breaking the law by using these drugs. Apparently the drug that is being used is very bad and has caused overdoses. But that is not a Whitman problem.

Your biggest problem at Whitman is that the kids think that everyone at Whitman is a genius and will go on to be rich like their parents. A LOT cannot adjust to the thought (perish it!) of having to move to Rockville (gasp) when they finish college and can't afford Bethesda. So save up, OP, so you can buy your kids a house in bethesda when they graduate. Because if they can't live in Bethesda, they will feel like total failures because they have spent their entire childhood putting down any place else.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Considering people use drugs about the same clip across racial and SES lines and then a consistent number of people who try move to using then take the next step into abuse. The real problem with drugs is the war on drugs and the adverse affects that has on the rest of your life once branded a druggie. Considering the "good to be the boss" affect enjoyed by the demographic who populates the school and that the school is almost completely void of the kind of people who typically suffer from the disproportionate policing and then the overly punitive criminal justice system:

I would say no, Whitman has the least serious drug problem in the entire county and the problems tends to trend upward as you go east and north.


Do they use drugs? of course!
Do they have a problem no? they're rich and white and most of life's rewards will be bought and paid for and consequences avoided.

Where's your data?

common sense you nit wit but here you go:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thecourtyard/9134268333/

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Blogs/Education-Matters/July-August-2012/African-American-Students-Face-Higher-Suspension-Rates-in-MCPS-High-Schools/
Consider there aren't any black students at Whitman to speak of and it has one of the lowest suspension rates in MoCo where do you think the kids are coming from? Potomac?

part of a larger news story.
http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/19285/de-facto-segregation-threatens-montgomery-public-schools/
MoCo does drug statistics but they say the same things and you can look them up if you feel the need. I get it that eastern parts of the county think they almost equal but they don't really get where and how the quality gaps manifest themselves. Whitman has almost no suspensions so the black marks that really hurt the kids more so than the actual actions never get put on the record. Hopefully then the kids out grow the youth retardation complex before they leave the protective bubble even though we all know some don't. Kids out east don't get quite the same protections and while not fair it is on their parents for failing to provide it to them even if they never had the chance to. That's life

We tend not to suspend b/c of drugs. maybe a day out of class
Suspensions - which are no longer part of how schools are run these days- revolve around fights and gang activity and usually involve weapons. For every kid suspended, there are ten more who have been overlooked b/c central office is on the schools' asses.


Your articles, therefore, aren't connected to your supposed "trend upward," moron.

I'm guessing you're not an educator.

Not true, drugs are one of and some years the leading reason for suspensions in many local high schools. If a kid has a problem he might get referred without much issue depending on how it is brought to light but there is a zero tolerance policy for possession and sales. You sound out of touch and I would doubt you are associated with the school system. Even if your nonsense had any legitimacy, what actually consists of suspendable "gang activity".

Signed a high school guidance counselor

Uh huh

Policy is policy.

You obviously have no ties to admin or central office. MCPS doesn't suspend . . .

Gang activity - fighting with weapons over turf

Where ARE you? certainly not in a DCC or NEC school

Anonymous wrote:Yes, Whitman does have a drug AND drinking problem. Most HSs do in some capacity, it just depends on income class makeup of the schools.

In affluent areas with mostly white and asian students, your issues will usually be some combination of cocaine, meth, weed, drinking, & prescription narcotics. In lower income areas like you mainly have weed.

and crack, don't forget the crack.

Yes, Whitman does have a drug AND drinking problem. Most HSs do in some capacity, it just depends on income class makeup of the schools.

In affluent areas with mostly white and asian students, your issues will usually be some combination of cocaine, meth, weed, drinking, & prescription narcotics. In lower income areas like you mainly have weed.

My DS finished as a freshman this year. By October, three of his friends were addicted to heroin. It's a scary place. All dropped out and now hang out near 7-11s, trying to get a fix.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I went to BCC and had friends at Whitman and have a child in HS in the area. Some kids do drugs at either school and some do not. If you are enterprising and a risk-taker at either school you can find pretty much any kind of drug you are interested in. Nowadays, pot smoking is ubiquitous, and thought of as a benign drug due to all the discussion and changes with legalization policies. Still, not everyone smokes. Other drugs like cocaine or LSD are also at the HS level, although less commonly.

In BCC and Whitman, suspension rates are not really going to reflect a drug problem. Kids at these schools are generally pretty motivated, have families that expect them to go to college and, if they are doing drugs, for the most part, kids are not going to be stupid enough to get caught doing or possessing at school. It is strictly a weekend thing to be done at someone's parent-less home or wherever is more private.

Adderall, that is the a big problem now.

Oh but that's ok because it helps them focus and do better in school.

Anonymous wrote:I went to BCC and had friends at Whitman and have a child in HS in the area. Some kids do drugs at either school and some do not. If you are enterprising and a risk-taker at either school you can find pretty much any kind of drug you are interested in. Nowadays, pot smoking is ubiquitous, and thought of as a benign drug due to all the discussion and changes with legalization policies. Still, not everyone smokes. Other drugs like cocaine or LSD are also at the HS level, although less commonly.

In BCC and Whitman, suspension rates are not really going to reflect a drug problem. Kids at these schools are generally pretty motivated, have families that expect them to go to college and, if they are doing drugs, for the most part, kids are not going to be stupid enough to get caught doing or possessing at school. It is strictly a weekend thing to be done at someone's parent-less home or wherever is more private.

Adderall, that is the a big problem now.

I went to BCC and had friends at Whitman and have a child in HS in the area. Some kids do drugs at either school and some do not. If you are enterprising and a risk-taker at either school you can find pretty much any kind of drug you are interested in. Nowadays, pot smoking is ubiquitous, and thought of as a benign drug due to all the discussion and changes with legalization policies. Still, not everyone smokes. Other drugs like cocaine or LSD are also at the HS level, although less commonly.

In BCC and Whitman, suspension rates are not really going to reflect a drug problem. Kids at these schools are generally pretty motivated, have families that expect them to go to college and, if they are doing drugs, for the most part, kids are not going to be stupid enough to get caught doing or possessing at school. It is strictly a weekend thing to be done at someone's parent-less home or wherever is more private.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Considering people use drugs about the same clip across racial and SES lines and then a consistent number of people who try move to using then take the next step into abuse. The real problem with drugs is the war on drugs and the adverse affects that has on the rest of your life once branded a druggie. Considering the "good to be the boss" affect enjoyed by the demographic who populates the school and that the school is almost completely void of the kind of people who typically suffer from the disproportionate policing and then the overly punitive criminal justice system:

I would say no, Whitman has the least serious drug problem in the entire county and the problems tends to trend upward as you go east and north.


Do they use drugs? of course!
Do they have a problem no? they're rich and white and most of life's rewards will be bought and paid for and consequences avoided.

Where's your data?

common sense you nit wit but here you go:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/thecourtyard/9134268333/

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Blogs/Education-Matters/July-August-2012/African-American-Students-Face-Higher-Suspension-Rates-in-MCPS-High-Schools/
Consider there aren't any black students at Whitman to speak of and it has one of the lowest suspension rates in MoCo where do you think the kids are coming from? Potomac?

part of a larger news story.
http://greatergreaterwashington.org/post/19285/de-facto-segregation-threatens-montgomery-public-schools/
MoCo does drug statistics but they say the same things and you can look them up if you feel the need. I get it that eastern parts of the county think they almost equal but they don't really get where and how the quality gaps manifest themselves. Whitman has almost no suspensions so the black marks that really hurt the kids more so than the actual actions never get put on the record. Hopefully then the kids out grow the youth retardation complex before they leave the protective bubble even though we all know some don't. Kids out east don't get quite the same protections and while not fair it is on their parents for failing to provide it to them even if they never had the chance to. That's life

We tend not to suspend b/c of drugs. maybe a day out of class
Suspensions - which are no longer part of how schools are run these days- revolve around fights and gang activity and usually involve weapons. For every kid suspended, there are ten more who have been overlooked b/c central office is on the schools' asses.


Your articles, therefore, aren't connected to your supposed "trend upward," moron.

I'm guessing you're not an educator.

Not true, drugs are one of and some years the leading reason for suspensions in many local high schools. If a kid has a problem he might get referred without much issue depending on how it is brought to light but there is a zero tolerance policy for possession and sales. You sound out of touch and I would doubt you are associated with the school system. Even if your nonsense had any legitimacy, what actually consists of suspendable "gang activity".

Signed a high school guidance counselor