Anonymous wrote:That's why I support the DC proposal to have stop and frisk for parolees. I know that the civil libertarians and the Sharpton crowd won't like it, but the fact is, in DC most violent criminals are recidivists.

How would the police know who is a parolee? Are they supposed to go around with a big "P" stamped on their foreheads?

That's why I support the DC proposal to have stop and frisk for parolees. I know that the civil libertarians and the Sharpton crowd won't like it, but the fact is, in DC most violent criminals are recidivists.

Anonymous wrote:My point is that we used to call them gangs and it would raise the public's concern. Now we say neighborhood feud and it sounds less severe.

Well, sometimes it's a neighborhood feud. Guy in my neighborhood was killed because he ripped someone off at a dice game. Another guy was killed because, just out of jail, he tried to sell drugs in someone else's territory. Was there a gang feud? Haven't heard that there was. It's possible but how would I know? But there was definitely a neighborhood dispute! If the police are saying there wasn't a neighborhood feud, they might be wrong, but given that they have more information than I do, chatting about this on the interwebs, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt until I learned more.

Anonymous wrote:In dc the term used is crew, not gangs

Yes, a crew feud sounds so much more civilized, like a rowing heat between National Cathedral School and NCS.

When I was in high school some well off jewish kid burned his pot dealer alive trying to kill him and when that didn't work hung him and went at him with a chainsaw. Did you infer that MoCo was overrun with (black gangs) then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Sheinbein

Anyone who used to live in DC in the 80's and early 90's knows the difference between a crew and a gang. A crew is a common DC colloquialism for a group of kids from the same neighborhood. Crews talk shit to each other on the basketball court and squabble about who's better at this or that in the hallways at school - that's what kids do. Deadly violence is neither a prerequisite nor a common characteristic of crews. Sadly it does happen on occasion - arguments escalate and people take stuff way too far - but crews for the most part interact with one another and co-exist with one another. Gangs are a different story.

Back when the city was far from gentrified and crack cocaine was wreaking havoc on communities and families there were indeed gangs in DC but the gangs didn't interact with one another nor did they co-exist with one another. Gangs were fighting over drug turfs and killing over those drug turfs and they were committing witness killings and retaliatory killings night in and night out to the extent that DC was known as the "Murder Capital" because of the whopping 400+ homicides a year. Gangs weren't comprised of kids mostly talking shit to one another and occasionally taking things too far - gangs were comprised of hardcore criminals and killers out to get paid and take out anyone in their way.

I live in NW I have family in NE and friends in SE and in my journeys around these areas its very evident to me that the gang environment that was once prevalent in DC is no more. Granted I see a lot of dumb ass kids out here who are in dire need of a clue and some common sense or at the very least a good a slap upside the head, but I don't see the gangs that once plagued our city.

Anonymous wrote:Lol call em pancakes - what difference does it make?

"Ohhh golly gee its so unfair the police and the press aren't properly making me ultra-paranoid by not using more frightening terminology to describe the groups of teens who periodically have conflicts with one another however will I survive!!"

Gimmie a break.

http://wjla.com/news/local/dc-homicide-rate-reaches-103-in-2015
"Police said King told them the shootout stemmed from a beef between rival crews. Crew is another name for gang. He specifically mentioned the 7th and O Crew. This is a notorious gang linked to numerous shootings in the past."

Lol call em pancakes - what difference does it make?

"Ohhh golly gee its so unfair the police and the press aren't properly making me ultra-paranoid by not using more frightening terminology to describe the groups of teens who periodically have conflicts with one another however will I survive!!"

Gimmie a break.

Is OP the same OP who bitched about the term "unrest" in Mayor Rawlings-Blake's statement about Governor Hogan's cancer?

I see OP's point, if you say crew or neighborhood feud it doesn't sound that serious.

Found this answer on the internet:

Crew and gang is the same thing.

In the dictionary it explains that one of the ways to describe crew is the word "gang" (other description could be "pack of wolves" "group of people with similar interest, mostly likely delinquents").

I guess that the only differences are that gang holds a darker light to society (people see "gang" is more dangerous than "crew")-- but still, they are the same-- just that the groups call themselves gangs more often than crews and let out a bad name for gangs (while again, still the same words). It is like the word "fat" and "overweight", it holds the same meaning but "fat" sounds more mean and more upseting for the person to be called as.

And another difference could be that the word gang connects to bad groups due to the people fearing it and judging it. The world crew does not connect to being a bad group to other people (at least at first). "Crew of workers" "crew of artists", sounds more light and could be used to form a group. "gang of workers" "gang of artists" sounds weird and very off. Still, same meaning, but gangs sounds darker than crews.

jsteele wrote:Are you new to DC? We really don't call them gangs. I also fail to see how arresting someone for murder is a sign of being soft on crime. Were you hoping they summarily executed the alleged perpetrator instead?

Exactly. The whole "hate crime" lobby are loons.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again!

"rival crews"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-confirm-men-shot-at-each-other-on-playground-residents-still-nervous/2015/07/09/6d15589a-25ec-11e5-b77f-eb13a215f593_story.html?hpid=z3

D.C. police, lawmakers and community activists say the groups (crews) are not gangs because their members are mostly teens who band together for personal protection. That, they say, distinguished them from conventional gangs, which are created for a criminal enterprise such as drug dealing.

same thing

You are actually trying to make an issue of the use of the term "crews"? Can you please let us know what turnip truck you just fell off of? Unbelievable that people are using long standing -- we are talking decades and decades -- correct terminology and you are criticizing it because it doesn't meet your own requirements.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again!

"rival crews"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-confirm-men-shot-at-each-other-on-playground-residents-still-nervous/2015/07/09/6d15589a-25ec-11e5-b77f-eb13a215f593_story.html?hpid=z3

D.C. police, lawmakers and community activists say the groups (crews) are not gangs because their members are mostly teens who band together for personal protection. That, they say, distinguished them from conventional gangs, which are created for a criminal enterprise such as drug dealing.

same thing

Anonymous wrote:Here we go again!

"rival crews"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-confirm-men-shot-at-each-other-on-playground-residents-still-nervous/2015/07/09/6d15589a-25ec-11e5-b77f-eb13a215f593_story.html?hpid=z3

D.C. police, lawmakers and community activists say the groups (crews) are not gangs because their members are mostly teens who band together for personal protection. That, they say, distinguished them from conventional gangs, which are created for a criminal enterprise such as drug dealing.