Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 23:16     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAYBE the parents weren't home and it was ANOTHER adult? That is possible, too.

MAYBE the kids are in charge and they DO what they want. That is possible, too, that they don't really have parents.


No offense because I see why you would draw this conclusion, but I know all of these kids and they do have loving, caring parents. Please try to remember these are real people who loved their kids as much as any of us love our kids.


I will not pass judgement on the parents of the victims. I don't know them personally but they are well respected in our community. My heart is broken for them. But I will pass judgement on any parent who allows a child to consume alcohol in their home. There are plenty of parents who love their children but that doesn't make them good parents. A good parent is a parent first and foremost and does not fear setting limits.

I don't know if the homeowner was aware of the party taking place. I'm not sure if the adult present was even the homeowner. If they are truly innocent I'm sorry that they'll be tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. But if they knew, there's not an excuse in the world.

What really bothers me is that the parents of kids in this social circle are justifying what happened. The message is still not getting through!
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 21:21     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAYBE the parents weren't home and it was ANOTHER adult? That is possible, too.

MAYBE the kids are in charge and they DO what they want. That is possible, too, that they don't really have parents.


No offense because I see why you would draw this conclusion, but I know all of these kids and they do have loving, caring parents. Please try to remember these are real people who loved their kids as much as any of us love our kids.


I do not know any one involved but agree with PP. when I was in high school, my house was the one where kids came. My dad supplied beer for parties. I now have kids entering high school. I would never host such a party. But other than this stupid lack of judgement, I cannot think of criticism of my parents. They were loving parents, and strict in many ways. Thanks to God, nothing ever happened but I still think people make mistakes and it does not mean the parents are evil. Yes, the consequences were horrendous and punishment is necessary but I will not judge too harshly.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 20:49     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:I think we all know parents who do this, and the kids know exactly which houses to go to to party because of this. Either the parents are there and don't care, or the parents are never home but know what's going on.


Or the parents who know their kids are coming home/driving drunk.

I am getting annoyed with people who keep mentioning that the parents involved are devastated and loved their kids etc. We all know that the parents--the hosts and the parents who had a kid die/drive are devastated and loved their kids No one doubts this. They don't get a pass for stupidity because they are grieving.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 20:38     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAYBE the parents weren't home and it was ANOTHER adult? That is possible, too.

MAYBE the kids are in charge and they DO what they want. That is possible, too, that they don't really have parents.


No offense because I see why you would draw this conclusion, but I know all of these kids and they do have loving, caring parents. Please try to remember these are real people who loved their kids as much as any of us love our kids.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 19:53     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
What if parents allowed 1 beer/kid and they had to pass a breathalyzer test before leaving?

Seems to control risk.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 19:18     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a God awful feeling that the hosting parents in the Sam Ellis two dead passengers incident will get no jail time, and will thus continue to host parties for under-aged drinkers.


And you base this on what? Do you not think those parents --charged or not -- are not devastated by what happened? Don't get me wrong, if they were hosting a party where those teenagers were drinking alcohol, they deserve to get charged. But they're still human beings. Back in the day, we had parties all the time. We were incredibly lucky no tragedy ever occurred. Times have changed for the better. But let's not act like these parents are malicious, when what they did was merely stupid and irresponsible.


I want to preface my response by saying the jury is out on whether these parents knew. Assuming they were home, the adults should be charged and face jail time. Make an example of them and it might stop the next parent from hosting. . They are responsible for the tragic loss of 2 young lives! I don't give a crap about their personal devastation. What about the devastation they caused to those boys' families and friends!

I've been silently following this thread but the above post makes me feel compelled to share my 2 cents. I disagree with the above post. I feel strongly that any responsible parent should be able to foresee that this tragedy is a possible outcome. Maybe I can't call the hosting parents malicious, but I also refuse to think they are just stupid. This is an educated area and those parents knew better! They made a conscious decision to ignore the law. People died! I hold them even more responsible than the teen driver (who I still100% feel is culpable) because at their age they possess a well developed frontal lobe and a lifetime of experience.

What stuns me is that this event has brought to light the fact there are parents in my community who condone giving kids alcohol. I get that kids this age are risk takers and cave to peer pressure. I understand that kids sneak around. But if my child were to attend a party where the homeowner knew there was underage drinking, I would be livid!


+1. I can't believe all of these parents that would allow underage drinking in their homes. I think that's despicable on so many levels.


+2 And even if the parents do not fear prosecution, they should be concerned about their civil liability.

+3 I hope the hosting parents get taken to the cleaners this time.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 19:15     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:MAYBE the parents weren't home and it was ANOTHER adult? That is possible, too.

MAYBE the kids are in charge and they DO what they want. That is possible, too, that they don't really have parents.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 19:10     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a God awful feeling that the hosting parents in the Sam Ellis two dead passengers incident will get no jail time, and will thus continue to host parties for under-aged drinkers.


And you base this on what? Do you not think those parents --charged or not -- are not devastated by what happened? Don't get me wrong, if they were hosting a party where those teenagers were drinking alcohol, they deserve to get charged. But they're still human beings. Back in the day, we had parties all the time. We were incredibly lucky no tragedy ever occurred. Times have changed for the better. But let's not act like these parents are malicious, when what they did was merely stupid and irresponsible.


I want to preface my response by saying the jury is out on whether these parents knew. Assuming they were home, the adults should be charged and face jail time. Make an example of them and it might stop the next parent from hosting. . They are responsible for the tragic loss of 2 young lives! I don't give a crap about their personal devastation. What about the devastation they caused to those boys' families and friends!

I've been silently following this thread but the above post makes me feel compelled to share my 2 cents. I disagree with the above post. I feel strongly that any responsible parent should be able to foresee that this tragedy is a possible outcome. Maybe I can't call the hosting parents malicious, but I also refuse to think they are just stupid. This is an educated area and those parents knew better! They made a conscious decision to ignore the law. People died! I hold them even more responsible than the teen driver (who I still100% feel is culpable) because at their age they possess a well developed frontal lobe and a lifetime of experience.

What stuns me is that this event has brought to light the fact there are parents in my community who condone giving kids alcohol. I get that kids this age are risk takers and cave to peer pressure. I understand that kids sneak around. But if my child were to attend a party where the homeowner knew there was underage drinking, I would be livid!


+1. I can't believe all of these parents that would allow underage drinking in their homes. I think that's despicable on so many levels.


+2 And even if the parents do not fear prosecution, they should be concerned about their civil liability.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 17:08     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:I think we all know parents who do this, and the kids know exactly which houses to go to to party because of this. Either the parents are there and don't care, or the parents are never home but know what's going on.


+1
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 16:59     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
I think we all know parents who do this, and the kids know exactly which houses to go to to party because of this. Either the parents are there and don't care, or the parents are never home but know what's going on.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 16:33     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
+2. They care more about being 'cool' than about being parents. How shameful.


That depends on how you define "being parents", doesn't it?
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 16:33     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
MAYBE the parents weren't home and it was ANOTHER adult? That is possible, too.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 16:04     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Maybe this will be a wakeup call to parents who think it's OK to host underage drinking parties.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 15:50     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a God awful feeling that the hosting parents in the Sam Ellis two dead passengers incident will get no jail time, and will thus continue to host parties for under-aged drinkers.


And you base this on what? Do you not think those parents --charged or not -- are not devastated by what happened? Don't get me wrong, if they were hosting a party where those teenagers were drinking alcohol, they deserve to get charged. But they're still human beings. Back in the day, we had parties all the time. We were incredibly lucky no tragedy ever occurred. Times have changed for the better. But let's not act like these parents are malicious, when what they did was merely stupid and irresponsible.


I want to preface my response by saying the jury is out on whether these parents knew. Assuming they were home, the adults should be charged and face jail time. Make an example of them and it might stop the next parent from hosting. . They are responsible for the tragic loss of 2 young lives! I don't give a crap about their personal devastation. What about the devastation they caused to those boys' families and friends!

I've been silently following this thread but the above post makes me feel compelled to share my 2 cents. I disagree with the above post. I feel strongly that any responsible parent should be able to foresee that this tragedy is a possible outcome. Maybe I can't call the hosting parents malicious, but I also refuse to think they are just stupid. This is an educated area and those parents knew better! They made a conscious decision to ignore the law. People died! I hold them even more responsible than the teen driver (who I still100% feel is culpable) because at their age they possess a well developed frontal lobe and a lifetime of experience.

What stuns me is that this event has brought to light the fact there are parents in my community who condone giving kids alcohol. I get that kids this age are risk takers and cave to peer pressure. I understand that kids sneak around. But if my child were to attend a party where the homeowner knew there was underage drinking, I would be livid!


+1. I can't believe all of these parents that would allow underage drinking in their homes. I think that's despicable on so many levels.

+2. They care more about being 'cool' than about being parents. How shameful.
Anonymous
Post 07/08/2015 15:45     Subject: Have Hosting Parents of HS Parties Ever Been Charged?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a God awful feeling that the hosting parents in the Sam Ellis two dead passengers incident will get no jail time, and will thus continue to host parties for under-aged drinkers.


And you base this on what? Do you not think those parents --charged or not -- are not devastated by what happened? Don't get me wrong, if they were hosting a party where those teenagers were drinking alcohol, they deserve to get charged. But they're still human beings. Back in the day, we had parties all the time. We were incredibly lucky no tragedy ever occurred. Times have changed for the better. But let's not act like these parents are malicious, when what they did was merely stupid and irresponsible.


I want to preface my response by saying the jury is out on whether these parents knew. Assuming they were home, the adults should be charged and face jail time. Make an example of them and it might stop the next parent from hosting. . They are responsible for the tragic loss of 2 young lives! I don't give a crap about their personal devastation. What about the devastation they caused to those boys' families and friends!

I've been silently following this thread but the above post makes me feel compelled to share my 2 cents. I disagree with the above post. I feel strongly that any responsible parent should be able to foresee that this tragedy is a possible outcome. Maybe I can't call the hosting parents malicious, but I also refuse to think they are just stupid. This is an educated area and those parents knew better! They made a conscious decision to ignore the law. People died! I hold them even more responsible than the teen driver (who I still100% feel is culpable) because at their age they possess a well developed frontal lobe and a lifetime of experience.

What stuns me is that this event has brought to light the fact there are parents in my community who condone giving kids alcohol. I get that kids this age are risk takers and cave to peer pressure. I understand that kids sneak around. But if my child were to attend a party where the homeowner knew there was underage drinking, I would be livid!


+1. I can't believe all of these parents that would allow underage drinking in their homes. I think that's despicable on so many levels.